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Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by freedomben »

solardev wrote: post #17
flipdot wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about accessibility?

That's what 8-bit text to speech was for, played from the PC Speaker for maximum effect. It sounded like Stephen Hawking choking on vodka, but that somehow fit the mood.

> It sounded like Stephen Hawking choking on vodka

I'm probably way, way overthinking this, but this seems philosophically quite deep and interesting, much like "what is the sound of one hand clapping" (ignoring Bart Simpson's masterful destruction of the ancient question).

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by freedomben »

ivan_gammel wrote: post #23
warkdarrior wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fuck accessibility. We're hackers, if it was hard to write, it should be hard to read.

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Hackers come in all ages, colors, shapes, and sizes. The ethos is one that is the very opposite of identitarianism. I would highly recommend getting to know more people in the community.

Also, I would guess that GP is making a joke based on a classic (and funny) stereotype.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by mtillman »

solardev wrote: post #16

Weren't these the guys who released BackOrifice back in the day? It was a simple to use remote control trojan with a nice GUI... had a blast with it :P https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_Orifice?wprov=sfla1 As a kid, I attached it to some shareware game and sent it to a friend, letting it lurk. I called him up a few days later. And then once we started playing the game, I waited for a suspenseful moment to suddenly p…

It’s worth reading their new book which is a history of the group. The chat was launched at defcon last year at their birthday party and there will be more this year.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by debo_ »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #15
debo_ wrote: post #6

This feels like it would have been edgy and cool 30 years ago.

I don't know if you're talking about the design or content. But on design... So Cult of the Dead Cow has literally been around for 40 years. And this is what their "pages" looked like before the web, when ascii on TTY was all you had. Ironically, however, the first actual web page of theirs IA has, in 1998, does _not_ look like this, they didn't actually think at that point it would be edgy and cool to make the brand…

Not the page design, the method itself. "Bovine mother?" Come on.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by shawn_w »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #15
debo_ wrote: post #6

This feels like it would have been edgy and cool 30 years ago.

I don't know if you're talking about the design or content. But on design... So Cult of the Dead Cow has literally been around for 40 years. And this is what their "pages" looked like before the web, when ascii on TTY was all you had. Ironically, however, the first actual web page of theirs IA has, in 1998, does _not_ look like this, they didn't actually think at that point it would be edgy and cool to make the brand…

I remember reading the text files section of cDc's page back in the 90's. There was some sick and twisted stuff in that collection. Thanks for the flashbacks?

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by ivan_gammel »

freedomben wrote: post #32
ivan_gammel wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Hackers come in all ages, colors, shapes, and sizes. The ethos is one that is the very opposite of identitarianism. I would highly recommend getting to know more people in the community. Also, I would guess that GP is making a joke based on a classic (and funny) stereotype.

There’s no such thing as single community of hackers with some ethos. Exactly because “identitarianism” isn’t their thing. The hats are of different colors.

GP may be making a joke, but you should read the irony in my comment too. From my experience people who disregard accessibility are often the ones who were never disadvantaged or discriminated. Hence the attributes I mentioned.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by [deleted] »

ivan_gammel wrote: post #39
freedomben wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hackers come in all ages, colors, shapes, and sizes. The ethos is one that is the very opposite of identitarianism. I would highly recommend getting to know more people in the community. Also, I would guess that GP is making a joke based on a classic (and funny) stereotype.

There’s no such thing as single community of hackers with some ethos. Exactly because “identitarianism” isn’t their thing. The hats are of different colors. GP may be making a joke, but you should read the irony in my comment too. From my experience people who disregard accessibility are often the ones who were never disadvantaged or discriminated. Hence the attributes I mentioned.

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