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Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by nsxwolf »

solardev wrote: post #16

Weren't these the guys who released BackOrifice back in the day? It was a simple to use remote control trojan with a nice GUI... had a blast with it :P https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_Orifice?wprov=sfla1 As a kid, I attached it to some shareware game and sent it to a friend, letting it lurk. I called him up a few days later. And then once we started playing the game, I waited for a suspenseful moment to suddenly p…

My friend pulled a similar prank on me a few years earlier than that. Involved different tech like BBS software, ZMODEM file transfer, and Sound Blaster command line utilities but same effect. I nearly died.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by freedomben »

This was actually announced/released last year. It is absolutley fascinating and deserving of HN (IMHO).

> Veilid is an open-source, peer-to-peer, mobile-first, networked application framework.

Website: https://veilid.com/

Overview: https://veilid.com/docs/overview/

Slides from the Defcon presentatino: https://veilid.com/Launch-Slides-Veilid.pdf

Code: https://gitlab.com/veilid/veilid

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by parpfish »

CuriousCosmic wrote: post #14
debo_ wrote: post #6

This feels like it would have been edgy and cool 30 years ago.

FYI: Cult of the Dead Cow is a hacker group that has been around since the 80s. Hell a number of members actually have testified in congress before (i.e. the CdC members that were also part of L0pht).

one of them went beyond testifying in congress and just became a politician

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beto_O%27Rourke

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by egypturnash »

Has VeilidChat (or anything else running on top of Veilid) been released? The page for that (https://veilid.com/chat/) says its code will be released “in the coming weeks”; the whole Veilid site looks unchanged since its initial publication back in 2023.

Edit: ah, some bouncing around through their FAQs found a repo for it that has commits within the last week/month: https://gitlab.com/veilid/veilidchat - looks like “hand this to your non-technical friends” is still a very long way away.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by trustno2 »

The demo VeilidChat app doesn't lead anywhere, but there is a gitlab.

I haven't tried it yet.

https://gitlab.com/veilid/veilidchat

edit: I did, I failed to build it with "version solving failed.", I am not learning how to debug Dart builds right now

edit2: well, build.sh finished with some installing, but I still don't see any binary. Eh, other day.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by oytis »

flipdot wrote: post #10
gryfft wrote: post #3

The web needs more sites hosting raw .html pages formatted as plain text decorated with ASCII art with zero regard for mobile. I say this with complete sincerity.

What about accessibility?

Accessibility of this page is pretty bad as far as I can tell, but not because it's plain HTML. And if I understand correctly you can mark ASCII art as an image (role="img") with alternative text too.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by solardev »

nsxwolf wrote: post #21
solardev wrote: post #16

Weren't these the guys who released BackOrifice back in the day? It was a simple to use remote control trojan with a nice GUI... had a blast with it :P https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_Orifice?wprov=sfla1 As a kid, I attached it to some shareware game and sent it to a friend, letting it lurk. I called him up a few days later. And then once we started playing the game, I waited for a suspenseful moment to suddenly p…

My friend pulled a similar prank on me a few years earlier than that. Involved different tech like BBS software, ZMODEM file transfer, and Sound Blaster command line utilities but same effect. I nearly died.

He was a pioneer :D The granddaddy of us script kiddies.

The BBS door game Legend of the Red Dragon (https://legendreddragon.net/) was how I learned about everything from protocols to sex to RPGs. Such an innocent time. The media was afraid of Doom corrupting the youth.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by hypercube33 »

31337Logic wrote: post #2

Wow. Today I learned CdC and ACiD are still a thing. ;-) Thanks for posting this. Even though slightly old, still timely and relevant.

Similar to the cDc but instead of hacking it goes after culture and religion is the Church of MOO which I think came out of the same bbs/usenet and irc era of the Internet if you could even call it that http://www.textfiles.com/occult/MOOISM/
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