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> Because Ruby and especially RoR is a strict downgrade in every dimension compared to .NET. And that line of thinking is damaging in the tech world. There is no one ring to rule them all. Each tool, language, framework has a place - everything has tradeoffs. I've worked with enough .NET world to know what the tradeoffs would have been. For instance the critical library that enabled this piece of functionality, the n…
Curious what the gem is?
I love to see how active and vibrant the Rails community is. I used to be concerned about the viability of building new companies in Rails, since the ruby share of languages is so low these days. Based on the still-healthy community and the ridiculous productivity level that a developer can have with Rails 7+ (turbo, morph, stimulus) I still think its a fantastic stack to build a company with.
This thread seems to be getting some views. I'm looking to break into the Rails work, but it seems rough trying to get into a job doing Rails work as a junior, not quite senior role. I have other development experience, primarily in Ruby and Objective-C. Any advice? I know the job market is a bit of a rough one right now as well.
That said, if you can display you have knowledge of the more important Rails libraries like ActiveRecord, ActiveJob, how Rails handles the MVC pattern etc., then your chances are much better. It's a bit of a magical framework when you first start working with it, so it's important to know what it does behind the scenes, at least a tiny bit, since otherwise it's easy to get lost.
I love to see how active and vibrant the Rails community is. I used to be concerned about the viability of building new companies in Rails, since the ruby share of languages is so low these days. Based on the still-healthy community and the ridiculous productivity level that a developer can have with Rails 7+ (turbo, morph, stimulus) I still think its a fantastic stack to build a company with.
Ruby is incredible. It is still one of the best choices for a platform to build a company or a product quickly with. If it cannot keep up with your scale, throw more hardware at it and it will still be worth it in terms of time and man-hours saved. I only ever wanted compile-time linting and better autocompletion such as in the case of Elixir LS. Does something like that exist for Ruby now? How is Crystal these days?
In the latest version of IRB for example they can use RBS based static typing for autocompletion[1].
This gives me a lot of hope that we'll have a more widely used static typing solution soon. i.e. some coming together of Sorbet, Steep and RBS.
1. https://github.com/ruby/irb?tab=readme-ov-file#type-based-co...
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There is ruby-lsp and ruby-lsp-rails. For the former to shine you do need to use sorbet but for any moderate to large sized rails app I'd personally recommend it anyway. Yes it's not perfect, yes it has a learning curve but boy does it make refactoring easier, faster and safer. ruby-lsp-rails builds on top of that and hands out information on models and routes mostly
Also using ruby-lsp with VS Code and it's been a game-changer.
I love to see how active and vibrant the Rails community is. I used to be concerned about the viability of building new companies in Rails, since the ruby share of languages is so low these days. Based on the still-healthy community and the ridiculous productivity level that a developer can have with Rails 7+ (turbo, morph, stimulus) I still think its a fantastic stack to build a company with.
This thread seems to be getting some views. I'm looking to break into the Rails work, but it seems rough trying to get into a job doing Rails work as a junior, not quite senior role. I have other development experience, primarily in Ruby and Objective-C. Any advice? I know the job market is a bit of a rough one right now as well.
That will allow you get familiar with the ecosystem so that you can hit the ground running and also allow you to point to experience during the screen and interview phases.
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Rails is *ancient* in the context of tech though, I think it's fair to criticize the skeletons in the closest while not necessarily refuting that the ecosystem is still active. An equivalent example imo is the PHP ecosystem, which itself has been growing rapidly and thriving over the years -- but at the same time if you did deep enough you'll find a graveyard of long since abandoned frameworks, libraries, etc...
I think both PHP and Ruby still have and will keep their niches, but in my opinion they don't provide the building blocks to expand outside of their niche and grow much at this point. If you contrast that with let's say Rust, which at least has the potential to become successful across a wide field of applications. The problem that I can see with Ruby in particular is that its niche is getting smaller and smaller as…
And then talked about Rust as it was a general purpose language that all the potential to become the top language for most programming in the World?
I’m joshin’ but seriously, PHP is HUGE and Ruby was always small even when they were loud on the internet.
Rust is a systems language currently being used as a big hammer for everything and a somewhat obnoxious community just as Ruby, then Node, then Go were when their day in the Sun was.
I’ve seen the exact template of your comment throughout the years, it fine, it belongs to this particular point in time and in your of the woods, there are more.
I love to see how active and vibrant the Rails community is. I used to be concerned about the viability of building new companies in Rails, since the ruby share of languages is so low these days. Based on the still-healthy community and the ridiculous productivity level that a developer can have with Rails 7+ (turbo, morph, stimulus) I still think its a fantastic stack to build a company with.
3-4 years ago I was convinced that Rails was in its sunset years. JS had all the energy, Ruby conferences were disappearing, and it seemed like there was no new open-source development happening: we were all just using the same gems we'd used for years. I'm happy to say that I was proven very wrong. New conferences have sprung up, over-the-wire is trending well against SPAs, and there's been a ton of new features and…