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Passkeys: A shattered dream

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Re: Passkeys: A shattered dream

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Yes, there are plenty of people who avoid travelling to the US

I know that, but I didn’t think it was because of security. I don’t think of the US as particularly dangerous, but maybe my perception is wrong…

The homicide rate is 8x Australia's, so yeah it is by comparison.

Re: Passkeys: A shattered dream

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> At this point I think that Passkeys will fail in the hands of the general consumer population.

Actually, I think it might be worse. The predators like Apple/Google have already pounced on passkeys as a consumer capture mechanism, so they'll ensure it doesn't fail.

Re: Passkeys: A shattered dream

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently... of course, the threat of "mass casualty violence and terrorist attacks" is real, but you're probably still more likely to die in a plane crash while getting to the US (or in a car accident while there) than in a shooting or terrorist attack. And if you insist on only travelling to countries that have a lower level of violent crime than Australia, you probably won't get around much ( https://worldpopulat…

Oops, you forgot the other 2 travel advisories the author quoted in that part: - "Violent crime is more common in the US than in Australia" - "Medical costs in the US are extremely high. You may need to pay up-front for medical assistance" I think some Americans don't realize that, outside of America, many people don't ever consider the risk of gun violence in their day-to-day lives, or owing thousands of dollars for…

Actually, I specifically addressed the violent crime thing...

As for the medical costs - if you want to be on the safe side, you can (actually you should) get travel health insurance.

Re: Passkeys: A shattered dream

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, there are plenty of people who avoid travelling to the US

I know that, but I didn’t think it was because of security. I don’t think of the US as particularly dangerous, but maybe my perception is wrong…

I know that US is vast, and there are millions of good places where one could feel safe, but I assure you, from the outside sometimes is seems you live in a mad max alternate universe

Re: Passkeys: A shattered dream

#37

Passkeys are pretty useless for me. At first I was somewhat hyped, but it seems that everyone just ignores them. Chrome does not support them. I set it up on mac, today I tried to login to icloud using passkey, but it just didn't work. Few websites implemented them, but overwhelming majority of websites don't. So, yeah, useless technology for now. Passwords and TOTPs are the way.

Chrome supports passkeys

It does not. Not for Linux, anyway.

Re: Passkeys: A shattered dream

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Honestly, I think a big part of the problem is that passkeys have been tied to hardware devices and they don't have to be. A passkey is just a public key credential, and it can easily be provided by software as well as by hardware. You would still get many of the benefits (better UX, automatically secure, prevents phishing) and the overall customer experience could be a lot better. Imagine if passkeys could be saved,…

I have my passkeys in bitwarden.

Does BitWarden support passkey export now?

Re: Passkeys: A shattered dream

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Passkeys are pretty useless for me. At first I was somewhat hyped, but it seems that everyone just ignores them. Chrome does not support them. I set it up on mac, today I tried to login to icloud using passkey, but it just didn't work. Few websites implemented them, but overwhelming majority of websites don't. So, yeah, useless technology for now. Passwords and TOTPs are the way.

Just logged in to iCloud using chrome on a mac. Scanned a QR with iPhone and boom that was that.

I tried to log in using chrome on fedora. Scanned QR code with iPhone, waited like 20 seconds looking at "Connecting" and gave up. Does not work.

Re: Passkeys: A shattered dream

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I use iCloud's Passkeys extensively and have never had saved Passkeys "wiped out". I am not disputing that data loss bugs can happen, but three times for one user sounds pretty weird given the maturity of the ecosystem. The most obvious explanations seem to me to be: a) Apple loses data (presumably not just Passkeys, but also photos, passwords, and other highly noticeable stuff) all the time, and I've been lucky for…

It can't be hyperbole, their partner's car keeps exploding too! So often that they're switching back to a four horse carriage.
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