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Garry's Mod faces deluge of Nintendo-related DMCA takedown notices

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Re: Garry's Mod faces deluge of Nintendo-related DMCA takedown notices

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post #8

This is a technically true story, but why don’t they report the Garry Mod has issued false DCMA notices too? It really seems like Engadget hates Nintendo.

What kind of IP has "a physics-based sandbox game" (quote Wikipedia) that warrants DCMA notices? I mean to send out their own DCMA notices. Not receiving them.

Especially "a physics-based sandbox game" that doesn't really have assets of its own and just uses Half-Life 2 assets

Re: Garry's Mod faces deluge of Nintendo-related DMCA takedown notices

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Serious question: why aren't false DMCA claims prosecutable as fraud? The elements are there - a knowingly false representation, detrimental reliance, and materiality.

It should be required, by law, to accompany a DMCA claim with some kind of digital signature that can certify the issuer really owns the content (such as a company or law office certificate). Other than that, they're prosecutable as perjury, but in practice, no one ever inquires those cases.

Re: Garry's Mod faces deluge of Nintendo-related DMCA takedown notices

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post #3

Nintendo seems to go through these litigious cycles every once in a while. I wonder if this is them asserting their IP as part of a larger strategy to focus attention on an upcoming system launch?

They have only recently started allowing their IP to be used for non-game products, like the recent Mario movies. My guess is that they are being litigious again because they want to avoid any confusion between sponsored and non-sponsored products.

Re: Garry's Mod faces deluge of Nintendo-related DMCA takedown notices

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post #7

Serious question: why aren't false DMCA claims prosecutable as fraud? The elements are there - a knowingly false representation, detrimental reliance, and materiality.

Garry has now clarified that the takedowns were in fact issued by Nintendo, contrary to earlier reports. https://twitter.com/garrynewman/status/1783501547361411494

Hilariously, there are people there yelling it can’t be true.

To which:

A. Why would he have lied?

B. This has had millions of views across all platforms. If it wasn’t real, don’t you think Nintendo would be calling up and telling him that it was fake?

Re: Garry's Mod faces deluge of Nintendo-related DMCA takedown notices

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post #8

This is a technically true story, but why don’t they report the Garry Mod has issued false DCMA notices too? It really seems like Engadget hates Nintendo.

What kind of IP has "a physics-based sandbox game" (quote Wikipedia) that warrants DCMA notices? I mean to send out their own DCMA notices. Not receiving them.

One that has an internal system for uploading and downloading models and assets owned by other companies

Re: Garry's Mod faces deluge of Nintendo-related DMCA takedown notices

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Garry has now clarified that the takedowns were in fact issued by Nintendo, contrary to earlier reports. https://twitter.com/garrynewman/status/1783501547361411494

Hilariously, there are people there yelling it can’t be true. To which: A. Why would he have lied? B. This has had millions of views across all platforms. If it wasn’t real, don’t you think Nintendo would be calling up and telling him that it was fake?

Thought I don't think its rational to think its fake I do want to add:

A: Its Garry. He used to go onto community servers and grief cause hes a troll and might find it funny to fan the flames.

B: If people think they are doing it anyways they might as well actually start pressing claims.

Re: Garry's Mod faces deluge of Nintendo-related DMCA takedown notices

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post #15

That seems rather slow reaction time... Clearly they have not had many people actually looking around the Internet to find too many of these things always...

Nintendo having a weirdly slow reaction time is nothing new. For a long time it was possible to pirate 3DS games by downloading them directly from Nintendos CDN, because the authentication tickets needed to download from it weren't tied to any specific account or console and could be shared freely, and they allowed that to keep happening for years before reworking the backend to add a check that you actually own the game you're trying to download. They ignored that for so long that the 3DS was almost EOL by the time they fixed it.

Re: Garry's Mod faces deluge of Nintendo-related DMCA takedown notices

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post #3

Nintendo seems to go through these litigious cycles every once in a while. I wonder if this is them asserting their IP as part of a larger strategy to focus attention on an upcoming system launch?

They have only recently started allowing their IP to be used for non-game products, like the recent Mario movies. My guess is that they are being litigious again because they want to avoid any confusion between sponsored and non-sponsored products.

As usual, it’s also worth remembering that compared to their competition:

- Nintendo is the most reliant on their own IP for sales

- Nintendo does not have a corporate giant to absorb any misfires

- Nintendo is the smallest gaming giant, at half the value of Sony, and less than a tenth the value of Microsoft

- Nintendo has the greatest dependency on maintaining an image of being family-friendly. Shock content wouldn’t muster a single headline for a Microsoft IP, but could be national news if it involves Yoshi and causes suicidal thoughts in a 6 year old

All of this adds up to a more strict attitude.

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