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ByteDance prefers TikTok shutdown in US if legal options fail, sources say

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Re: ByteDance prefers TikTok shutdown in US if legal options fail, sources say

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It’s exciting to think that by this time next year, TikTok can be nothing more than a distant memory. RIP Vine

There will just be something else that's basically the same thing

I hate YouTube shorts that pop into my feed and I hate myself for watching them.

Re: ByteDance prefers TikTok shutdown in US if legal options fail, sources say

#32

Despite what they said I think they will still sell. If they don't sell it's a really bad look for them.

> Despite what they said I think they will still sell.

I have to agree. There's too much money on the table to not sell.

Re: ByteDance prefers TikTok shutdown in US if legal options fail, sources say

#34

It never was about ByteDance. It's the Chinese government who will decide. From their point of view, the right strategic move is to shut it down. Even if every other country bans the app it doesn't impact them much. Also they hate doing things that make then look weak. If they sell, they lose their influence. If they shut down, same thing.

Western companies have largely taken the same approach and exited markets that banned them rather than sell. Whether it's Google, YouTube, X, Instagram, or Facebook, they didn't sell either.

But from a practical standpoint how do you sell 'a branch' of a software-based company?

Do you sell/license the software? Do you charge this new company for API access to the 'old' services?

I've had a really hard time trying to imagine how this could play out in fair agreement. I think the only real option is to exit the market.

Re: ByteDance prefers TikTok shutdown in US if legal options fail, sources say

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post #14

I've noticed my TikTok feed is full of "Bosnian Serbs want emancipation, war is looming on Western Balkan" type of videos lately. My guess is Russia and China want another war far from Ukraine so western nations focus less on Ukraine.

There is absolutely no way to draw general conclusions like this from one single person's experience on the FYP algorithm - it's very different depending on who is viewing it.

Re: ByteDance prefers TikTok shutdown in US if legal options fail, sources say

#36

Despite what they said I think they will still sell. If they don't sell it's a really bad look for them.

For ByteDance it's a bad look. The Chinese government probably doesn't look at it that way. From their perspective, allowing ByteDance to sell looks a lot like allowing the US to dictate Chinese policy, which is anathema to party priorities.

Re: ByteDance prefers TikTok shutdown in US if legal options fail, sources say

#37
post #13

Who even knows what the buyers are buying? The major investor groups that have shown interest so far didn’t seem that savvy. TikTok would sell the user base and basic functionality, but no way they will sell the magic algorithm that no other company STILL has yet to replicate It would be on the buyer to prove / challenge it’s not the same algorithm and that would be almost impossible to prove Who knows what TikTok is…

Is the algorithm that much better than Shorts/Reels?

Re: ByteDance prefers TikTok shutdown in US if legal options fail, sources say

#38

This is what they would say whether or not they wanted to sell. Otherwise the buyers would be operating from a position of strength

I suspect this has more to do with getting TikTok users riled up with the hopes of influencing change. If they do sell, I don't see anybody trying to low ball them since they know what they are getting.

Re: ByteDance prefers TikTok shutdown in US if legal options fail, sources say

#39

I wonder if this choice will have an effect on the upcoming US elections, with TikTok users blaming the current government for losing access to their favourite app.

It will, and it's blatant proof the power tiktok has on the minds of americans. The CEO has already put out a propaganda piece talking about how Tiktok being banned is a travesty to American free speech.

Re: ByteDance prefers TikTok shutdown in US if legal options fail, sources say

#40

It never was about ByteDance. It's the Chinese government who will decide. From their point of view, the right strategic move is to shut it down. Even if every other country bans the app it doesn't impact them much. Also they hate doing things that make then look weak. If they sell, they lose their influence. If they shut down, same thing.

> It never was about ByteDance. It's the Chinese government who will decide. This makes for a pithy statement, but is it actually true? Obviously the Chinese government has a lot of influence on Chinese companies, but do they actually dictate strategic direction like this?

On this specific issue, very probable. China has a law that restricts the export of algorithm: https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/US-...
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