This does not appear to affect domestic customers.
How would they know a customer is domestic or foreign without some level of identification on everyone?
We have 4 days to contest KYC being required by internet services
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#32I suppose VPN's will become illegal next?
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#33What can we do to actually contest it? I see this website lets you submit a “formal comment”. But is that enough? Who is in charge of the decision and who else can be pressured to stop it (certain legislators)?
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#35Unconstitutional.
Is it? How? Which bit of KYC for SaaS violates which right?
Isn't this a clear violation of the 4th amendment?
> “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things ...
Note it says "the people" and not "citizens of the United States". Everyone has this protection within U.S. borders, SCOTUS has ruled to this effect.
So the government forcing yet more private companies to do their unconstitutional bidding seems like something that should b opposed. I believe banks being required to collect KYC came about through The Patriot Act. If this trend continues, you'll need to verify your identity to use any service.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think that the biggest argument in favour is that it would remove anonymity on the internet, at least from governments, and that could enable law enforcement to more easily find people committing real crimes. CSAM, scams, etc. I think the biggest argument against it is that this removes anonymity on the internet, at least from governments, and that would remove people's ability to freely voice their opinions withou…
Does this actually remove anonymity on the internet? It seems to de-anonymize a set of IaaS customers, sure; but that's not nearly the same thing as removing anonymity completely. I've only just scanned this but it seems at first glance to mean that a foreign company can't anonymously spin up an AWS instance, that's all. Am I reading this incorrectly?
It establishes the principle, so that later it can be expanded by degrees. The trick is to oppose the principle so that it can't be expanded later.
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#37Skimming through the article, it seems like the extent of this is to require IAAS (Infrastructure) providers to verify the identity of those who are using their services to train AI. It's an attempt to stymie sanctioned or malicious actors, from training AI and especially from hopping between services or using aliases to continue training on their model. It seems a bit benign and I don't understand the parallels othe…
I think everyone has a sour taste left over from decades of half-baked laws written by politicians that don't understand the basics of the internet or technology in general.
With that said, I also don't understand the issues people are having with this.
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#38This is a good overview https://www.akingump.com/en/insights/alerts/commerce-issues-...
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#39Skimming through the article, it seems like the extent of this is to require IAAS (Infrastructure) providers to verify the identity of those who are using their services to train AI. It's an attempt to stymie sanctioned or malicious actors, from training AI and especially from hopping between services or using aliases to continue training on their model. It seems a bit benign and I don't understand the parallels othe…
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#40- "To Address the National Emergency"
A fast-moving emergency that can't be fixed by normal constitutional lawmaking processes, and must resort, exceptionally, to executive-branch emergency decrees—for expedience. Nevermind the executive order it's drawing authority from was written three years ago. It was a fast-moving emergency then, too, I suppose.
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/01/25/2021-01... ("Taking Additional Steps To Address the National Emergency [sic] With Respect to Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities" (2021))