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VideoGigaGAN: Towards detail-rich video super-resolution

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Re: VideoGigaGAN: Towards detail-rich video super-resolution

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Is anyone else concerned at the societal effects of technology like this? In one of the examples they show a young girl. In the upscale example it's quite clearly hallucinating makeup and lipstick. I'm quite worried about tools like this perpetuating social norms even further.

No, I'm not concerned. When an AI is trained on a largely raw, uncurated set of low-quality data (eg most of the public internet), it's going to miss subtle distinctions some humans might prefer that it make. I'm confident that pretty quickly the majority of the general public using such AIs will begin to intuitively understand this. Just as they have developed a practical, working understanding of other complex tech…

I am not at all.

We seem to have a culture of completely paranoid people now.

When the internet came along every conversation was not dominated by "but what about people knowing how to build bombs???" the way most AI conversation flips to these paranoid AI doomer scenarios.

Re: VideoGigaGAN: Towards detail-rich video super-resolution

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Frame-rate upscaling is fine for video, but for animation it's awful. I think it's almost inherently so, because of the care that an artist takes in choosing keyframes, deforming the action, etc.

This just sounds like the AI is just not good enough yet. I mean it's pretty clear now that there is nothing stopping AI from producing close to or sometimes even exceeding human artists. A big problem here is good training material

Baffling to me that you think that AI art is capable of "exceeding" the human training material.

Re: VideoGigaGAN: Towards detail-rich video super-resolution

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Yes, avoiding creating societally-harmful content is what the Gemini "debacle" was attempting to do. It clearly had unintended effects (e.g: generating a black Thomas Jefferson), but when these became apparent, they apologized and tried to put up guard rails to keep those negative effects from happening.

> societally-harmful content Who decides what is "societally-harmful content"? Isn't literally rewriting history "societally-harmful"? The black T.J. was a fun meme, but that's not what the alignment's "unintended effects" were limited to. I'd also say that if your LLM condemns right-wing mass murderers, but "it's complicated" with the left-wing mass murderers (I'm not going to list a dozen of other examples here, th…

> Who decides what is "societally-harmful content"?

Are you stupid, or just pretending to be?

Re: VideoGigaGAN: Towards detail-rich video super-resolution

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Yes, avoiding creating societally-harmful content is what the Gemini "debacle" was attempting to do. It clearly had unintended effects (e.g: generating a black Thomas Jefferson), but when these became apparent, they apologized and tried to put up guard rails to keep those negative effects from happening.

What Gemini was doing -- what it was explicitly forced to do by poorly considered dogma -- was societally harmful. It is utterly impossible that these were "unintended"[1], and were revealed by even the most basic usage. They aren't putting guardrails to prevent it from happening, they quite literally removed instructions that explicitly forced the model to do certain bizarre things (like white erasure, or white quot…

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Re: VideoGigaGAN: Towards detail-rich video super-resolution

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Yes, avoiding creating societally-harmful content is what the Gemini "debacle" was attempting to do. It clearly had unintended effects (e.g: generating a black Thomas Jefferson), but when these became apparent, they apologized and tried to put up guard rails to keep those negative effects from happening.

What Gemini was doing -- what it was explicitly forced to do by poorly considered dogma -- was societally harmful. It is utterly impossible that these were "unintended"[1], and were revealed by even the most basic usage. They aren't putting guardrails to prevent it from happening, they quite literally removed instructions that explicitly forced the model to do certain bizarre things (like white erasure, or white quot…

I didn't say the outcome wasn't harmful. I said that the intent of the people who put it in place was to reduce harm, which is obvious.

Re: VideoGigaGAN: Towards detail-rich video super-resolution

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This just sounds like the AI is just not good enough yet. I mean it's pretty clear now that there is nothing stopping AI from producing close to or sometimes even exceeding human artists. A big problem here is good training material

Baffling to me that you think that AI art is capable of "exceeding" the human training material.

I didn't say that. I said that AI is capable of sometimes exceeding human artists. That is not the same thing as saying AI is exceeding the best human artist. If your training material is of high quality it's shouldn't be impossible to exceed human artists some or even most times, i.e. Produce better material then the average or good artists.

Re: VideoGigaGAN: Towards detail-rich video super-resolution

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Hollywood has incredible financial and political power. And even if fully AI generated movies reach the same quality (both visually and story wise) as current ones, there’s a lot of value in the shared experience of watching the same movies as other people, that a complete collapse of the industry seems highly unlikely to me.

> that a complete collapse of the industry seems highly unlikely to me. Unlikely in the next 10 years or the next 100?

I wouldn’t have any confidence in any predictions I make 100 years into the future even if we didn’t have the current AI developments.

With that said, I’m pretty confident that the movie industry will exist in 10 years (maybe heavily tranformed, but still existing and still pretty big). If it’s still a big part of current popculture by then (vs obviously on its way out) then I’d expect a collapse of it to require a change that is not a result of AI proliferation, but something else entirely.

Re: VideoGigaGAN: Towards detail-rich video super-resolution

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> that a complete collapse of the industry seems highly unlikely to me. Unlikely in the next 10 years or the next 100?

I wouldn’t have any confidence in any predictions I make 100 years into the future even if we didn’t have the current AI developments. With that said, I’m pretty confident that the movie industry will exist in 10 years (maybe heavily tranformed, but still existing and still pretty big). If it’s still a big part of current popculture by then (vs obviously on its way out) then I’d expect a collapse of it to require a c…

My point is that many talk about AI as though it's not going to evolve or get better. It's a mindset of "We don't need to talk about this because it won't happen tomorrow".

Realistically, AI being able to replace Hollywood is something that could happen in 20-50 years. That's within most people's lifetime.

Re: VideoGigaGAN: Towards detail-rich video super-resolution

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An image downscaled and then upscaled to its original size is effectively low-pass filtered where the degree of edge preservation is dictated by the kernel used in both cases. Are you saying low-pass filtering is bad for compression?

Do you seriously think down sampling is superior to JPEG?

No. I never made this claim. My argument is pedantic.
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