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You are what you read, even if you don't always remember it

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Re: You are what you read, even if you don't always remember it

#161
This reminds me of finetuning LLMs vs using RAG:

In RAG you "know" what the model knows and it's easy for it to give sources - you literally give it to the model in the prompt.

In finetuning, the model learns something, but it might not be able to reproduce it perfectly later on. But it's models have been changed.

Re: You are what you read, even if you don't always remember it

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post #148

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> We can overcome our biology, our predilections, and many of our shortcomings. We have to consciously choose to do so though. Hmm, no we can't. And the few people who seemingly can do that, it's because their biology/environment allowed that. So kind of circling back to determinism. Free will is a myth that's used to lock people up. If you slap someone in the face, we'll lock you up somewhere because we don't know i…

Who's this "society" and how has it managed to have free will? If someone can't "decide" to slap their neighbor in the face and is determined to do that, why can't the same reasoning be applied to society? Society didn't freely choose to lock someone up, it was determined to do so.

Either way, face slappers and other annoying people get locked up.

Re: You are what you read, even if you don't always remember it

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post #25

Don't forget that you are the result of all the past sensory interactions that you experienced in your whole life, people you interacted with, books you read, advertisements, songs, news headlines, etc. Even if you think you don't remember them, at one point in your life it was processed by your brain and may have changed some posterior decisions you made, thus making you what you are now. Since I realized this, I am…

I have realised this a while ago and this made me hate advertising even more.

Particularly sudden advertising in youtube videos, it really feels like some kind of rape of the mind.

Re: You are what you read, even if you don't always remember it

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post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My Diogenes answer would be to walk across the room and slap you: “if I didn’t chose to do it you cannot be angry at me.” That’s tongue and cheek sure, but the point I feel stands. Free will is certainly constrained, and our material and biological conditions do matter - there’s no amount I can will to make myself fly, but they are not necessarily as rigid of constraints as many would have you believe. We can overcom…

> We can overcome our biology, our predilections, and many of our shortcomings. We have to consciously choose to do so though. Hmm, no we can't. And the few people who seemingly can do that, it's because their biology/environment allowed that. So kind of circling back to determinism. Free will is a myth that's used to lock people up. If you slap someone in the face, we'll lock you up somewhere because we don't know i…

I'm going to nominally disagree with you, my genes are in total control and I must.

Free will is a matter of definition, and certain definitions, no matter how hard we try, can't be formulated as easily as one does in, say, Euclidean geometry.

So you can come up with a definition of the free will you don't have, let's call it "absolute determinism", and it has all sort of interesting criminal applications, beyond slapping people on the face (yes, who does that anyway?).

For example, you could use your[^1] absolute determinism to build a very advanced AI that relies on a pseudo-random generator with a fixed seed. Fallibility is the result of using stochastic search methods, and your AI shows it. In that respect and many others, your AI acts exactly as a human would because you programmed it that way. Yet, you have the strongest argument possible to affirm that the AI you created has no free-will. One day, the AI leaves a bunch of children mentally dysfunctional[^2]. But it has no free-will, all it is emanates from you. So you must be charged for the AI's crime.

Your lawyers come to court and state that you in turn have no free-will, that you are God's creature. The prosecutor brings a priest to say that God gave you free will. The judge says that precedent demands you be thrown from a high mountain, but it's feeling like a good day for a crucifixion. Of course, the trial is a shamble, a racket run by Sapiens' genes to ensure that they are passed down. And from that point of view, you committed the ultimate sin.

The way out? Submit to your genes, do what they tell you to. Believe in free-will.

[^1] I wash my hands.

[^2] Wait, did that happen already?

Re: You are what you read, even if you don't always remember it

#166
Books, generally speaking, have changed my life for the better. I curate my reading list and only mindfully read what is beneficial to me.

The more I practiced mindful reading, the better I got at many things (from work, finances, to friendship and marriage).

I can attribute this to what seems pretty obvious - apply what you learn or think deeply about it to understand its meaning to you.

Re: You are what you read, even if you don't always remember it

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post #25

Don't forget that you are the result of all the past sensory interactions that you experienced in your whole life, people you interacted with, books you read, advertisements, songs, news headlines, etc. Even if you think you don't remember them, at one point in your life it was processed by your brain and may have changed some posterior decisions you made, thus making you what you are now. Since I realized this, I am…

> at one point in your life it was processed by your brain and may have changed some posterior decisions you made

I believe this is called subconscious mind

Re: You are what you read, even if you don't always remember it

#168
post #25

Don't forget that you are the result of all the past sensory interactions that you experienced in your whole life, people you interacted with, books you read, advertisements, songs, news headlines, etc. Even if you think you don't remember them, at one point in your life it was processed by your brain and may have changed some posterior decisions you made, thus making you what you are now. Since I realized this, I am…

This is pretty trite if you stop to think about it. “Everything in your life that you experience has an effect on your experience of life.”

We all exist in the world, not apart from it, and no amount of exclusion or creation of “sterile spaces” will change that.

Re: You are what you read, even if you don't always remember it

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post #166

Books, generally speaking, have changed my life for the better. I curate my reading list and only mindfully read what is beneficial to me. The more I practiced mindful reading, the better I got at many things (from work, finances, to friendship and marriage). I can attribute this to what seems pretty obvious - apply what you learn or think deeply about it to understand its meaning to you.

How do you pick what to read? Is it based purely on interests or areas you feel behind?

Re: You are what you read, even if you don't always remember it

#170
I could never put it words like in the article, but I always thought this was true (not just to books, but to all the inputs). Many times in my life, I have remembered obscure stuff from a random movie or specific parts of a conversation that I had many years back. Similarly with books, I can't recall it completely, but the sense of it is something that easily pops up.

Now I have started taking advantage of this using Anki. Whenever I read something having a particularly interesting or thought-provoking idea, I find a way to create flashcard(s) out of it. Now I am able to recall these things more often and many times they have guided me in my life or helping out friends.

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