TikTok CEO expects to defeat US ban: 'We aren't going anywhere' • Hacker News Board

Re: TikTok CEO expects to defeat US ban: 'We aren't going anywhere'

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Apr 24, 2024, 10:10 PM UTC

dixie_land wrote: post #30

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #8

Does he seriously think the US SCOTUS is going to override the will of 79 senators, for the sake of a company with documented ties to the Chinese Communist Party? If I was a senator, I would consider that almost treasonous. Frankly, even if you disagree with the vote, a democracy can and should be able to make such judgement calls. At that rate, the CCP should be able to buy beachfront property in California, ship mi…

As a thought exercise I would argue 2A protects the right of a Chinese national owning nuclear weapons legally in the US.

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Re: TikTok CEO expects to defeat US ban: 'We aren't going anywhere'

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Post by slowmovintarget » Wed, Apr 24, 2024, 10:40 PM UTC

TMWNN wrote: post #52

slowmovintarget wrote: post #36

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Meanwhile, China orders Apple to yank WhatsApp and Facebook apps from its app store in China, because, ya know... they can.

>China orders Apple to yank WhatsApp Welcome to 2017. >and Facebook Welcome to 2009. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_ma... >

That's kind of my point. Why is it they view social media as a weapon aimed at their citizenry and we don't?

Re: TikTok CEO expects to defeat US ban: 'We aren't going anywhere'

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Post by underseacables » Thu, Apr 25, 2024, 12:15 AM UTC

tantalor wrote: post #60

TMWNN wrote: post #51

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My understanding is that you and tantalor are mistaken. The bill explicitly covers using TikTok as a web app.

How would that be enforced??

Don't you remember when the FBI seized pirating sites?

Re: TikTok CEO expects to defeat US ban: 'We aren't going anywhere'

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Apr 25, 2024, 4:50 AM UTC

davis wrote: post #32

CrzyLngPwd wrote: post #12

Can anyone say what user data ByteDance might share with the Chinese government? Also, how is China an adversary? I thought the USA and China were trading partners.

We are trading partners for sure but the American model and Chinese model are fundamentally opposed. For the last 10-15 years, tensions have been getting hotter because Xi has been consolidating power and flexing his strength across the region and exporting censorship. You can look at Hong Kong as an example of this. It's clear China doesn't want to live under a Western hegemony and has been trying to get more power…

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Re: TikTok CEO expects to defeat US ban: 'We aren't going anywhere'

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Post by CrzyLngPwd » Thu, Apr 25, 2024, 10:05 PM UTC

DarkByte8 wrote: post #58

CrzyLngPwd wrote: post #53

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Ah, okay, so it's a competition, and the USA thinks it might not win because the Chinese gov might see the videos Yanks view on TikTok.

Tell China to let Facebook, Instagram, Youtube in China and then it will be a fair competition.

Your whataboutism leads the USA to the bottom, which, coincidentally, the USA is winning anyway.

Re: TikTok CEO expects to defeat US ban: 'We aren't going anywhere'

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Post by TMWNN » Sat, Apr 27, 2024, 4:00 PM UTC

slowmovintarget wrote: post #62

TMWNN wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>China orders Apple to yank WhatsApp Welcome to 2017. >and Facebook Welcome to 2009. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_ma... >

That's kind of my point. Why is it they view social media as a weapon aimed at their citizenry and we don't?

>Why is it they view social media as a weapon aimed at their citizenry and we don't?

China views free speech as a weapon aimed at their citizenry and we don't.