The problem with the logic, that a geopolitical adversary shouldn't control a social media company, is that our domestic political system has, as of late, acted quite adversarial to its own population. For that reason, it's not clear to me if China is really a foreign enemy, or an enemy of an enemy. For now, I and many of the younger generation clearly consider it to be the latter, and I will resist all efforts of the current regime to suppress it, until all members of the current regime are swept from power.
Biden signs TikTok bill into law, starting clock for ByteDance to divest
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#552All of this just to limit the spread of Palestinians contents in the young generation, since the ADL has a strong “influence” on all other big social media except TikTok (there’s even videos of ADL’s CEO complaining about tiktok Palestinians contents and young generation not supporting Israel), AIPAC came to the rescue and asked its puppets in both red/blue parties to pass the bill, while they also make some cash out…
You are correct.
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#553Honestly, the loon who lit himself on fire the other day might have been onto something . The bill that the President just signed seems like an attempt to alienate at least 50% of voters under 30. It almost feels like the current administration is trying to give people a reason to vote for the other guy.
I interpreted it differently. That Biden was putting national interests ahead of reelection interests. That said, I should caveat that I tend not to read US based news cause it’s a cesspool of outrage based clickbait.
I think Biden continually torpedoes his appeal to the youth because he thinks there’s no need to appeal to leftist votes when the opponent is Trump.
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#554This is the 3rd time I'm trying to share a perspective that keeps getting flagged. Bytedance does not have to divest because it's against the law for the U.S government to prevent Americans from reading, viewing or saying what they want. Will be struck down by SCOTUS. Does this comply with HN's site guidelines?
I think you're getting downvoted, because the right of congress to manage affairs interstate and foreign commerce has nothing to do with the content Americans read. The objection is ownership/controlling interest, and any SCOTUS ruling will have to speak to that, not first amendment issues.
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#555if you've been to China, you'll know that they ban all western products: facebook, google, etc etc and replaced them with their own variants. If they want to run around free-range without any restriction with their own products then they should respond by loosening restrictions in their own country. This is an absolute no-brainer. If you want Tik Tok in the US, lower your middle finger. Am I missing something?
I was always in favor of banning it for this reason, but I'm concerned that Biden is now banning it for a different reason. The timing is interesting. Certain lobby groups have been urging Congress on this due to TikTok videos about the war in Gaza. Then again, Trump was also trying to ban it for his own reasons.
Yep. TikTok is the only major social media app in the US that does not downrank pro-Palestinian content. No one in the US government cared about TikTok until the latest conflict in Israel. This is the only reason for the ban.
Re: Biden signs TikTok bill into law, starting clock for ByteDance to divest
#556This is the 3rd time I'm trying to share a perspective that keeps getting flagged. Bytedance does not have to divest because it's against the law for the U.S government to prevent Americans from reading, viewing or saying what they want. Will be struck down by SCOTUS. Does this comply with HN's site guidelines?
TikTok isn't going away. It's changing owners.
There's existing laws about the citizenship of property owners (broadcase media for example).
Re: Biden signs TikTok bill into law, starting clock for ByteDance to divest
#557This is the 3rd time I'm trying to share a perspective that keeps getting flagged. Bytedance does not have to divest because it's against the law for the U.S government to prevent Americans from reading, viewing or saying what they want. Will be struck down by SCOTUS. Does this comply with HN's site guidelines?
I don’t know why you’re being flagged, but your constitutional analysis is wrong.
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#558TikTok made the mistake of making life difficult for the party. Boosting pro-Palestine voices has consequences.
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/ex...
I would be politically illiterate to pretend that a tik tok ban hasn’t been cooking for a long time, but I think the final impetus for this latest, successful push is the youth seeing non-mainstream perspective on the war.
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#559Earlier quoted context omitted.
>China and other countries do far worse to us than just requiring local ownership of businesses; and if they feel that is in their national interest, why can’t we return the favor when we feel it’s in our interest? This is bigger than China for a lot of people. TikTok has given an alternative voice to groups typically marginalized on pro-Western platforms. We typically see hypocrisy from the West when it comes to Isr…
TikTok amplifies whatever is in China's interest to amplify. Today, it happens to be voices opposed to Israel. Tomorrow, it could easily be the opposite. The goal is to generate geopolitical chaos to veil other actions (Taiwan, South China sea, Chinese migrant injections into Panama...). A society's strength comes from its unity of will and resolve. Social media can be used to attack that unity... and has, not just b…
Israel can generate chaos on its own quite well, thank you.
About one half (!) of all UNGA emergency special sessions are about its conflicts, for crying out loud. :) This nothingcountry of The world has grown by 4 billion people during that time, lol. Most of that time social media did not even exist.
Re: Biden signs TikTok bill into law, starting clock for ByteDance to divest
#560This is the 3rd time I'm trying to share a perspective that keeps getting flagged. Bytedance does not have to divest because it's against the law for the U.S government to prevent Americans from reading, viewing or saying what they want. Will be struck down by SCOTUS. Does this comply with HN's site guidelines?
This law does not prevent Americans from reading, viewing, or saying anything. You will still be free to visit TikTok's web client and do that. This prevents US companies from doing business with the company (eg. ads, app distribution, etc).