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IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal

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Re: IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal

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Post by NomDePlum »

renegade-otter wrote: post #181
NomDePlum wrote: post #175

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What in particular did you find difficult building a maintainable codebase in Golang? Not quite understanding the boilerplate reference. Code generation in Golang is something I've found removed a lot of boilerplate.

I am not used to writing code where 2/3 of it is "if err" statements. Also, refactoring my logging statements so I could see the chain of events seemed like work I rarely had to do in other languages. It's a language the designers of which - with ALL due respect - clearly have not built a modern large application in decades.

I understand were you are coming from but I actually like the explicit error handling in Golang. Things being explicit reduces complexity for me a lot and I find it easier to spot and resolve potential issues. It's definitely something that I can understand not working for everyone.

I agree on the logging point but my experience was the explicit error handling and with good test coverage meant we rarely got into situations were we had non-deterministic situation were we relied extensively on logging to resolve. But we also went through several iterations of tuning how we logged errors. It's definitely a rough edge in what is readily available in the language.

Re: IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal

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Post by chrishare »

paxys wrote: post #126
bigstrat2003 wrote: post #119

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Yet another example of why I think it's a mistake to take your company public. If I put in the work to build up a successful business, no way would I ever let it be turned into a machine that ignores long term health for the sake of making the stock price go up.

While I would think that, realistically most of my principles are for sale for a few billion dollars.

If anyone is listening, I'll gladly undercut this guy by a few orders of magnitude

Re: IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal

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Post by neurostimulant »

JohnMakin wrote: post #73
ClassAndBurn wrote: post #40

Hashi never sold me on the integration of their products, which was my primary issue with not selecting them. Each is independently useful, and there is no nudge to combine them for a 1+1=3 feature set. Kubernetes was the chasm. Owning the computing platform is the core of utilizing Vault and integrating it. The primary issue was that there was never a "One Click" way to create an environment using Vagarent, Packer,…

I was an extremely early user and owner of a very large-scale Vault deployment on Kubernetes. Worked with a few of their sales engineers closely on it - was always told early on that although they supported vault on kubernetes via a helm chart, they did not recommend using it on anything but EC2 instances (because of "security" which never really made sense their reasoning). During every meeting and conference I'd as…

They probably don't want their customers to use a competitor's product instead of Nomad.

Re: IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal

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Post by shreezus »

glenngillen wrote: post #187
jbm wrote: post #97

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A lot of the people I respected from Heroku went there, glad they got a chance to use their skills to build something useful and profitable; glader still that they got their payout. Sadly I echo your sentiment about the future, as someone who has heard second-hand about the quality of work at modern Redhat. I am wondering how many more rounds of consolidation are left until there is no more space to innovate and we o…

Heh at “got their payout”. HashiCorp IPO’d at $80, employees are locked up for 6 months. This sale is at $35.

Wow IBM got quite the discount!

Re: IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal

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Post by orthecreedence »

chucky_z wrote: post #92
geekodour wrote: post #20

I've spent last 3 days learning nomad for my homelab setup, hope things stay more or less the same for it :)

Nomad has a remarkably strong community for it's size. I'm almost positive it will continue to live in some format, even if completely hard-forked. I know if nobody else does anything I will do something myself, personally. I love Kubernetes, however I feel like things like Nomad and Mesos have a space to exist in as well. Nomad especially holds a special place in my tech-heart. :)

> Nomad especially holds a special place in my tech-heart.

Same. I'm not a fan of the recent licensing changes and probably won't use it for any new installations, but Nomad enabled me to be an entire ops team AND do all my other startupy engineer duties as well with minimal babysitting. It really just works, and works fantastically for what it is. Nomad is like the perfect mix of functional and easy to manage.

Re: IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal

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Post by neurostimulant »

orf wrote: post #154

Back in 2015 I discovered a security issue with some Dell software[1]. I remember vividly getting an email about a job opportunity based entirely on this from a company with a strange name, that after some googling made a thing called Vagrant. They seemed super nice but I was far too young and immature to properly evaluate the opportunity, so after a few emails I ghosted them out of fear of the unknown. In 2015 they…

I guess you're not active in hacker news around 2013 because vagrant was absolutely popular here a long time ago. Mitchell Hashimoto showed up a lot too when we're talking about vagrant back then. If only you had procrastinated more you might ended up as employee #51 :)

Re: IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

skywhopper wrote: post #197
cjk2 wrote: post #179

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My personal opinion is it was a company for crack monkeys. Consul, Vault and Packer have been nothing but pain and misery for me over the last few years. The application of these technologies has been nothing but a loss of ROI and sanity on a promise. And don't get me started on Terraform, which is a promise but rarely delivers. It's bad enough that a whole ecosystem appeared around it (like terragrunt) to patch up t…

When a massive ecosystem springs up around a product, that means it’s wildly successful, actually.

The person you are replying to made no statement about the success of the product. Success and pita-ness are completely orthogonal.

Re: IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal

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Post by busterarm »

glenngillen wrote: post #187
jbm wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of the people I respected from Heroku went there, glad they got a chance to use their skills to build something useful and profitable; glader still that they got their payout. Sadly I echo your sentiment about the future, as someone who has heard second-hand about the quality of work at modern Redhat. I am wondering how many more rounds of consolidation are left until there is no more space to innovate and we o…

Heh at “got their payout”. HashiCorp IPO’d at $80, employees are locked up for 6 months. This sale is at $35.

They IPO'd in 2021.

Re: IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal

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Post by [deleted] »

cqqxo4zV46cp wrote: post #176
czbond wrote: post #45

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IBM M&A person: "We'd like to buy you in all IBM stock! " Hopefully someone at HashiCorp: "Hell no, cash please"

Ugh, and have you actually looked at IBM’e share price? Or is it this because IBM isn’t cool to you? A bit rich for a community that’ll go work for shares in some dinky web app startup.

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