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China is communist. That is not the bar we are holding ourselves to.
China is absolutely not communist, it's probably the most capitalist country nowadays !
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Just because it doesn’t say “ban” doesn’t mean its not one. It is well known that China lists algorithms and AI models trained on citizen data as a non-export so tiktok will never be able to sell to anyone other than a Chinese company unless they retrain the model etc. The CEO has mentioned that they will simply pull out of the US market.
So not only does TikTok have to be sold but they also have to remove the addiction algorithm? This deal just gets better and better!
There is absolutely no justification for the US copying CCP policies. This is an embarrassing day for the US. Tiktok has been the only place to see videos about police brutality and one of the main places to see the movement supporting the Palestinian cause. I feel so much shame as an American that my country did this.
hmmm....
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> If you want Tik Tok in the US, lower your middle finger. Reciprocity isn't the main reason. It's become a legitimate national security problem. We're no longer in the early 2000s where we could delude ourselves into thinking China wasn't a rival. They're clearly revisionist, with their aggressive approach to resolving border disputes and rhetoric about forceful reunification of Taiwan being on the table. They are b…
what happened in Europe in 2022?
There is absolutely no justification for the US copying CCP policies. This is an embarrassing day for the US. Tiktok has been the only place to see videos about police brutality and one of the main places to see the movement supporting the Palestinian cause. I feel so much shame as an American that my country did this.
There is absolutely no justification for the US copying CCP policies. This is an embarrassing day for the US. Tiktok has been the only place to see videos about police brutality and one of the main places to see the movement supporting the Palestinian cause. I feel so much shame as an American that my country did this.
You’re ashamed that TikTok can continue to operate here so long as it’s divested of CCP control?
I think people are conflating way too many issues here with politics vs actual threats. China and Russia are not our allies. The CCP and Kremlin do not have our best interests in mind or even our most basic needs. They want to be global super powers and spread dictatorships. Democracy is a threat to absolute power. For years, the CCP and Kremlin authorities have been spreading disinformation to polarize politics in o…
TikTok isn't violating any US laws. If the US outlawed 'spreading disinformation to polarize politics' they'd have to ban youtube/facebook/twitter/reddit too. Do you think we should block all websites in China and Russia? Should we block their IP space entirely? We used to say that censoring the internet was something that only happened in Evil countries like China. We'd poke fun at their Great Firewall, but to prese…
Not a very good argument. This post is literally about the signing of the "Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act".
The loophole which is being closed is allowing foreign adversaries to control your social media apps.
It will be in violation if it doesn't sell.
I hope this will show the severity of threats countries face from social media and that things are no longer business as usual. Every European country /and/or EU/ECC as a block, as well as every other nation or block, should follow this up as soon as permitted to have all social media apps operated by a foreign country be subject to the same legislation. TikTok will have to sel to the US, Netherlands, France, Germany…
> Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, YouTube, WhatsApp, will either have to stop operating outside of the Unites States or they will need to be sold to every country they wish to operate in TikTok can sell to a French, Hungarian, Indian, Brazilian or even Iraqi person and be in compliance with this bill's terms. It doesn't require American ownership, it forbids control by a foreign adversary. If the EU and U.S.…
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> Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, YouTube, WhatsApp, will either have to stop operating outside of the Unites States or they will need to be sold to every country they wish to operate in TikTok can sell to a French, Hungarian, Indian, Brazilian or even Iraqi person and be in compliance with this bill's terms. It doesn't require American ownership, it forbids control by a foreign adversary. If the EU and U.S.…
Correct. Any other country on earth, other than: * China * North Korea * Iran * Cuba * Russia * Venezuela Could sell it to Pakistan, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Afghanistan, Belarus, etc.
The thing that ticks me off is that there hasn't been conclusive evidence that actually justifies this ban. I'd be perfectly happy if the CIA came out with documents of how the data goes to China, but all I've seen is evidence to the contrary (e.g. servers in US, headquarters in SG etc). If I'm wrong, I'd gladly look at some linked articles of course.
The thing is evidence came out 4-5 years ago that CCP directed TikTok to steer engagement algorithms to further PRC foreign policy goals which tldr meant inflame US users via purposely divisive content served up via TK. You are wrong, and linked articles from US intel community have been available for years.
Maybe you mean something like this “study” https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/tiktok-data-suggests-al... which concludes with “kinda maybe looks like they could possibly favor Chinese interest”. Doing a study and putting out a headline is all it takes to poison the public opinion and exactly what I would expect from the social media companies foaming at the mouth losing market share.
The wording I have seen is congress had a internal meeting about the potential security concerns that could be involved (very likely with every app).