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IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal

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Re: IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal

#101
post #53

Certainly an interesting turn of events. I really enjoy using Terraform (and Terraform cloud) for work but the license changes made me cautious to integrate anymore.

What was the licensing changes? I see a lot of references to it as though it was common knowledge, but I'm not aware of them.

Edit: found something: https://www.hashicorp.com/blog/hashicorp-adopts-business-sou...

Re: IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal

#103
post #84

Although I think they have very different use cases this means IBM own both Ansible and Terraform, both claiming to be IaC

Soon to be built into Ansible Automation Platform. Should only cost $100 per managed resource.

Is the implication that we won’t be able to freely use ansible-playbook anymore, and/or development will end on the “freely” available one?

Re: IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal

#104

How is Red Hat doing?

Contrary to the HN narrative, pretty OK. Not perfect, I have complaints, but most of them aren't related to IBM specifically.

IBM doesn't assert their will upon Red Hat anywhere near as strongly as HN seems to think they do and in particular the whole story about IBM killing CentOS is BS.

Re: IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal

#105
post #98
post #49

Well, it was nice while it lasted! HashiCorp always felt like a company made by actual engineers, not "bean counters". Now it will just be another cog in the IBM machine, slowly grinding it down, removing everything attractive, just like RedHat and CentOS. Hopefully this will create a new wave off innovation, and someone will create something to replace the monopoly on IaC that IBM now owns.

> HashiCorp always felt like a company made by actual engineers. IDK about this, in 2018 I was in a position to pay for their services. They asked for stupid amount of money and got none because they asked so much. Can't remember what the exact numbers were but but it felt like ElasticSearch or Oracle.

Inability to price things correctly sounds exactly like engineer behavior to me…

Re: IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal

#107
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The timing of this acquisition, and the FTC's ban on non-compete agreements is perfect.

Usually during an acquisition like this, the key staff are paid out after two years on board the new company. So not a non-compete, but an incentive to stay and get their payout. Most staff with no equity will leave quickly of course, so the invalidity of non compete will definitely help those souls.

"golden handcuffs" they call them.

Re: IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal

#108
post #49

Well, it was nice while it lasted! HashiCorp always felt like a company made by actual engineers, not "bean counters". Now it will just be another cog in the IBM machine, slowly grinding it down, removing everything attractive, just like RedHat and CentOS. Hopefully this will create a new wave off innovation, and someone will create something to replace the monopoly on IaC that IBM now owns.

Hashi code, such as Terraform, was (is) an amazing example of a good reference Go codebase. It was very hard for me to get into Go because, outside of the language trivia and hype, it was hard to learn about the patterns and best practices needed for building even a mid-sized application.

Re: IBM to buy HashiCorp in $6.4B deal

#110
post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t understand people’s beef with IBM. They have been responsible for incredible R&D within computing. I even LIKE redhat/fedora! HashiCorp had already been sold out since waaaay before this acquisition and I also don’t understand why their engineers are seen as “special”…

People's beef here with IBM is they don't make shiny phones and laptops and don't create hip jobs where you're paid 500k+ to "change the world" by selling ads or making the 69th messaging app. They just focus on tried and tested boring SW that big businesses find useful and that's not popular on HN which is more startup and disruption focused.

This is unnecessarily dismissive.

While Hashicorp hasn’t been exciting for a while, I fail to see how an acquisition from IBM will invigorate excitement, much less even a neutral reaction from many developers.

Hashicorp had a huge hand in defining and popularizing the modern DevOps procedures we now declare as best practices. That’s a torch to hold that would be very difficult for a business like IBM.

Perhaps I missed some things but the core of Ansible feels like it’s continuing it’s path to be much less of a priority over the paid value-adds. I can’t help but to think the core of Hashicorp’s products will go down this path, hence my pessimism.

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