My music taste brain was initially formatted by that 1990ies idea of MTV mainstream vs independent (which paradoxically, also defined itself through existing on MTV, just in different niches), and from there it had been a slippery slope towards ever nichyer niche. Stuff where the big hits now have accumulated total Spotify plays in four-digit range, if they do exist there. When eventually I realized that winning at niche one-upmanship is a lonely celebration, what followed was mostly silence.
When do we stop finding new music?
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Re: When do we stop finding new music?
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The artists have made it harder. They've pushed for aggressive one sided fan behavior policies (phone less), they've increased aggressively with the prices, the quality has gone down with many established bands, pushed large shows without building a performance with the space, and they've done a ton of things that don't help their product. It feels more like greed in the business than an experience. That being said I…
I am 100% onboard with the phone bans. There's nothing worse than hundreds of phone screens glowing in your face while you're trying to enjoy a live act. I can't imagine how weird it must feel for the performer(s) too. To go from people looking at you, making eye contact, engaging with the performance, to suddenly seeing a sea of phones pointed at you, with everyone watching you indirectly via their phone screen.
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Yeah, I agree. I think it's easy to sit and judge someone as being "uncultured" because they listen to music that was popular when they were a teenager, but fundamentally it's not like they're hurting anyone. I listen to mostly late-90's-early-2000's punk rock even still, and I don't think it's a moral failing that I don't listen to the latest stuff all the time, just like I don't think it's a moral failing for my mo…
> I think it's easy to sit and judge someone as being "uncultured" because they listen to music that was popular when they were a teenager, but fundamentally it's not like they're hurting anyone. I think the antagonism usually goes in the other way. Most people get crystallized music tastes pretty soon into their life and the second the new generation comes up with something different, it's all "music is crap these d…
If I were to use YouTube for a corpus, I could probably write contemporary translation books for many languages, as long as the phrases were along the lines of "still listening in ${YEAR}" and "new ${GENRE} isn't this good"
Re: When do we stop finding new music?
#84Re: When do we stop finding new music?
#85Spotify has financial incentive to obfuscate their UI to tilt people toward mindlessly consuming playlists. This is because labels pay Spotify to put certain songs on large playlists, and Spotify knows playlists are a good habit to push onto their users. Radio was used to discover new music decades ago, but paying a radio station (directly) to play a song is illegal (payola), so DJs had to break new songs, styles, an…
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#86The author seems to be describing what happens when one's primary relationship with music is one of consumption. It is easy (for me at least) to find new music when you are looking for inspiration in your own practice of making music. Most people don't make music though so I'd imagine it's easy to get stuck in that rut.
Re: When do we stop finding new music?
#87Spotify has financial incentive to obfuscate their UI to tilt people toward mindlessly consuming playlists. This is because labels pay Spotify to put certain songs on large playlists, and Spotify knows playlists are a good habit to push onto their users. Radio was used to discover new music decades ago, but paying a radio station (directly) to play a song is illegal (payola), so DJs had to break new songs, styles, an…
> So you're discovering new music, but none of it is memorable, because listening to music in 2024 (for a lot of people) is often a wall of slightly groovy background noise, with the occasional standout track that you probably toss into your own personal playlist. Yea, I tried streaming for a while, and found exactly that. When I play some genre-specific stream with a goal of discovering new music, I find it's basica…
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> but most "new music" is garbage by the standards set by about 50 years of music How so? What are these standards?
Infantilized lyrics, melodies, and harmonies, for starters.
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I am 100% onboard with the phone bans. There's nothing worse than hundreds of phone screens glowing in your face while you're trying to enjoy a live act. I can't imagine how weird it must feel for the performer(s) too. To go from people looking at you, making eye contact, engaging with the performance, to suddenly seeing a sea of phones pointed at you, with everyone watching you indirectly via their phone screen.
Yea, the whole "I want to watch the concert through my phone" thing I don't get at all. If you just want to watch it on your phone, why not just stay home and watch a professionally-produced concert video? Are they actually recording it for later (and are actually going to watch their low-quality recording later), or do they simply need to frame everything they experience inside a phone bezel?
Before this was mostly done through in person communicate, now this is primarily done through smart phones.
Re: When do we stop finding new music?
#90Overall, in my late 30s, I would say it's worked pretty well. I try to spend a decent amount of time sampling new music, and my music tastes have evolved a lot over time. In just the last two years I came to appreciate two entire new genre of music I had never really paid attention to, and listen to them a lot. Although, I will admit that most of my overall favorite music is still the same stuff I liked as a teenager.
I think a lot of it is simply taking the time to sample new music, and to develop the mental pathways to process new music styles. Old people can do it just as well as young people, but generally, older people have less time and interest in doing so. Kids generally don't understand what its like to be a parent with a job, and how little free time adults have, and how precious it is to them.
Also- regarding the author's comments on "American Idiot." I've always found it amusing how American capitalism loves to unironically sell people whatever they are willing to buy, especially including rebellious and anti-capitalist products and services, which are a big business overall. Reddit is currently worth 7 billion, and caters largely to people that like to complain to one another about how evil they feel capitalism is, and especially how evil Reddit in particular is.