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Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by swozey »

nkotov wrote: post #3

I loved this article. I have about 4k songs saved in my "liked" playlist on Spotify, majority of them were from when I was 20 to 24, then it tapered off a lot. I turned 30 this year and I still like to discover new music but not as much as I did in my early 20s.

I like to go through my Liked songs list that's probably 10+ years old on Spotify and it's basically like a journal of my life.

I'll see months where I clearly started dating a new person, incorporated their new-to-me music into my playlists, then when I start to see Lord Huron etc I'm probably going through another breakup. Then glowing up which for me is usually a metal/hardcore/rap 3-6 months in the gym until I meet someone and cycle again. lol.

My Spotify Remix in 2020 was pretty much all depression music.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by havblue »

It doesn't seem like the article makes much of a distinction between newly released music and music that you haven't listened to yet. Personally, as I get older I've lost the ability to listen to the same Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd etc albums for the 100th time. I cringe every time I hear the opening of Don't Stop Believing. So I've kept trying to get deeper into prog and other genres lately as I'm just burnt out on the old (good) stuff.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by maerF0x0 »

injidup wrote: post #6

Finding "new" music is a concept that the music industry has marketed to you like being skinny or that cola is a lifestyle. In times past people were happy with one genre or slight variations of that genre for millennia. Now we are spoiled for choice but are yet still made to feel ashamed if we are not consuming the newest and discarding the oldest. As if there is sickness to be found in enjoying something old and we…

> Now we are spoiled for choice but are yet still made to feel ashamed if we are not consuming the newest and discarding the oldest. As

Actually I've found Gen-z's to have surprisingly wide listening patterns. As a few datapoints I was surprised that my friend's teenager could actually name several Nirvana songs, knew who the Smashing pumpkins were, and also the Talking Heads. (all rose and fell from fame before her birth)

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by 082349872349872 »

dr-smooth wrote: post #19
tombert wrote: post #5

I haven't read the article, but I know the answer pretty definitively for me: the second I stopped listening to the radio, which happened in 2008 (when I was 17), because my favorite radio station in Orlando that used to carry a lot of punk rock music got rebranded to music for the 50+ demographic. I'm not even going to pretend that I know the reasons why they did that, but it was the only station I was listening to…

I also have that problem with lyrics in music while I'm working. That pushed me toward more electronic music during the workday. Got into various forms of house that way.

lyrics in a language you don't speak are much less distracting

(every now and then I get tempted to translate whatever word I think I keep hearing in every song; it often turns out to be either "love" or "heart")

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by nerdjon »

I have to wonder how much of this is societal expectations as you age? or "Being an adult".

The idea that once you reach a certain age, you settle down, get into a routine, doing less new things, etc.

While yeah, a music streaming service could introduce you to new music. Maybe you will just find yourself in less situations where you will experience new music?

Listening to a new song on your phone is a drastically different experience to overhearing it while traveling, with friends, whatever.

I know I have a number of songs that bring up an emotional response due to certain events tied to them. And some of them are genres I would not have normally found myself listening too.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by blakesterz »

There's a great episode of the Ongoing History of New Music on this topic

What A Drag It Is Getting Old (Musically)

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/what-a-drag-it-is-gett...

  "Ah…there it was again: an example of how someone’s musical tastes evolve with age… it’s just something that happens with most people… most of take that as a given…not me, though…this is something that’s always fascinated me…there has to be some science behind why we listen to different types and styles of music as we go through life… So I tracked down this science and I have some answers…we’ll call this episode “what a drag it is getting old—musically”…"

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by tombert »

ElFitz wrote: post #26
tombert wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I agree. I think it's easy to sit and judge someone as being "uncultured" because they listen to music that was popular when they were a teenager, but fundamentally it's not like they're hurting anyone. I listen to mostly late-90's-early-2000's punk rock even still, and I don't think it's a moral failing that I don't listen to the latest stuff all the time, just like I don't think it's a moral failing for my mo…

> and I don't think it's a moral failing that I don't listen to the latest stuff all the time I’ve personally enjoyed going the other way and exploring earlier and earlier singers and genres. Quite fun. For those interested, there’s also "Excavated Shellac"[0]. I can’t say I’ve liked or even enjoyed most of it, but it’s been an intriguing and interesting discovery nonetheless. [0]: https://excavatedshellac.com/2020/1…

Yeah, I've done something like the theme of Excavated Shellac with old CDs a couple times. I will buy a bundle of 100 random CDs on eBay and go through and rip anything that seems remotely interesting. Occasionally I've found stuff from obscure artists that I end up liking, and even stuff that never made it to Spotify.

It's time consuming and I probably won't do it again but it was fun to do a few times.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by ergonaught »

Well I'm in my 50s, and I mostly stopped finding new music when record labels, streaming, and social media destroyed the prospects for people who would otherwise make that new music for me to find.

New stuff still arrives (you're not going to predict that me-at-15-loving-Megadeth will much later also love Billie Eilish or Gin Wigmore or Mirel Wagner or ...) but most "new music" is garbage by the standards set by about 50 years of music (much of that before I was alive and thus well before my "peak influence").

I suspect the "findings" of the article suffer from environmental effects that weren't considered/controlled.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by BenFranklin100 »

There’s something biological going here I would think. 30 is about the age where fluid intelligence peaks but crystallized intelligence continues to grow for a few more decades. Also, 30 is about the age where a lot of us come into our own as the person we will more or less be for the rest of our lives. I know for myself that in my teens and twenties, music was part of the process of defining myself. By my early thirties, I had grown out of that phase and mine or someone else’s taste in music was irrelevant to how we viewed each other. Interestingly, like many men, I have not touched a video game since the age of thirty even though I’ve had the time.
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