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Other People’s Problems

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Re: Other People’s Problems

#31
I'll forever think of Douglas Adams and the Somebody Else's Problem (SEP) field[1]:

>An SEP is something we can't see, or don't see, or our brain doesn't let us see, because we think that it's somebody else's problem. That’s what SEP means. Somebody Else’s Problem. The brain just edits it out, it's like a blind spot.

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somebody_else%27s_problem

Re: Other People’s Problems

#33
Relatedly, there's interesting research on "self-distancing". Like https://selfcontrol.psych.lsa.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/2...

Talking to yourself by Name or in second person like you are talking to a friend seems to have a positive way of changing your perspective and allowing you to regulate your emotions and deal with something more rationally.

Re: Other People’s Problems

#34
I've also seen this phenomenon. I wonder if hopelessness and hopefulness is relevant since the focus seems to be the difficulty of coming up with solutions.

I suppose this just shifts the question to.. are we typically more hopeful for others than of ourselves and if so why?

Hopeful = helpful?

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Tip: when your solution contains "just (do something)", it's never that simple.

When estimating time for a task, every occurrence of the word "just" doubles the estimate. "Just" always hide a lack of knowledge. Of the problem, of the environment, of the team, of what the future will be.

that's cute, and it is often true. but not "always".

sometimes when a group gets "wrapped around the axle" and the proposed thing is spiraling out of control (usually due to hallucinated requirements or group anxiety feeding on itself), "Just " is EXACTLY what is needed, especially from a confident leader.

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Tip: when your solution contains "just (do something)", it's never that simple.

Reddit advice threads are famous for this. Just quit your job and get a new one. Just divorce your SO of 10 years and try again. Just pick up sticks and move somewhere else. Easy-peasy, right?

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#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Thus you can often find communities of people with disabilities I find it odd to immediately distill this down to "group A with disabilities" and "group B without". Both groups have problems, maybe just different ones. I also don't see what is insulting about making a sincere attempt to help, whether it ends up being helpful or not.

> I also don't see what is insulting about making a sincere attempt to help, whether it ends up being helpful or not. It's the equivalent of people wanting to escort you across a road without getting run over. They don't think you're capable of understanding the risks of crossing a road. Or giving someone in a wheelchair tips on how to walk normally. Or your completely tech illiterate grandparent telling you how to w…

> It's not uncommon I can't eat any of the food at a social event. I'm used to that and I'm not bothered by it. But everyone else feels bad for me and decides to tell me so.

Being vegetarian seems to generate this problem.

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#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Thus you can often find communities of people with disabilities I find it odd to immediately distill this down to "group A with disabilities" and "group B without". Both groups have problems, maybe just different ones. I also don't see what is insulting about making a sincere attempt to help, whether it ends up being helpful or not.

> I also don't see what is insulting about making a sincere attempt to help, whether it ends up being helpful or not. It's the equivalent of people wanting to escort you across a road without getting run over. They don't think you're capable of understanding the risks of crossing a road. Or giving someone in a wheelchair tips on how to walk normally. Or your completely tech illiterate grandparent telling you how to w…

I don't consider any of your extreme examples as "a sincere attempt to help". Maybe I should rephrase it as "sincere, reasonable attempt to help".

I guess there is also a distinction to be made between problems to be solved, and currently acceptable, non-problematic situations where you receive unsolicited advice on how to improve it.

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#40

My general experience is often people think problems are easy to solve from the outside because they just don't understand the problem. Thus you can often find communities of people with disabilities who understand the problems and the people from the outside who offer insulting and simple solutions to the problems. As soon as someone falls from group B into group A the problems stop becoming simple and easily solubl…

>Thus you can often find communities of people with disabilities I find it odd to immediately distill this down to "group A with disabilities" and "group B without". Both groups have problems, maybe just different ones. I also don't see what is insulting about making a sincere attempt to help, whether it ends up being helpful or not.

Insulting is a emotional judgement, and j=such judgements may be specific to certain communities who are especially disadvantaged, or maybe receive such 'advice' very regularly?

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To take the emotions out, I had witnessed an interesting exchange a while back.

A startup dealing with removing plastic from the oceans posted on LinkedIn about their work, and highlighted the difficulty of sorting the different types of plastic (so they could be subsequently dealt with appropriately). Their current method was simply humans sorting the plastic manually, by sight.

An LinkedIn acqaintance thought he had a solution for them, and tried to get in touch with the startup. He was gently but firmly rebuffed, and was very upset that the organisation didn't "give him anyone senior" to deal with. His ego was bruised. The funny thing was, the startup was totally correct. This guy is a marketing consultant with (I know) zero domain knowledge of anything related to plastics, recycling, computer vision, robotics, etc. He was just an arrogant guy who absolutely didn't understand anything relevant in the problem space.. and yet still thought he needed to get involved and offer his opinions and ideas.

Was his approach insulting? Not in this case, but potentially so, in more sensitive areas. More than anything, it was a powerful example of the Dunning-Kreuger effect in action. :)

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