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Senate passes TikTok ban bill, sending it to President Biden's desk

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Re: Senate passes TikTok ban bill, sending it to President Biden's desk

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Biden seems to be pretty much doomed in the election anyway. Of course he might pull out an upset but it’s hard to pin it on this being the cause of his loss

Biden seems to be leading by 10% in most of the latest polls.

He's not leading the polls:

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/202...

Please vote.

Re: Senate passes TikTok ban bill, sending it to President Biden's desk

#53
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> An ENEMY STATE has controlling influence of a widely used social network in the USA. People's minds are influenced by it .. "You are what you eat" holds for what you read/watch and consequently think How are you defining an enemy, and why does it matter whether they're a state or not? There are several domestic entities (governmental and non) that I would consider much bigger threats to me and the people I care abo…

> There are several domestic entities (governmental and non) that I would consider much bigger threats to me We can address multiple threats at once, and are not compelled to address them in priority order. Any improvement is good. > if you're not willing to let people read/watch widely and make up their own minds This seems a very weak argument. Of course nobody wants to make it illegal to see propaganda. But if you…

> We can address multiple threats at once, and are not compelled to address them in priority order. Any improvement is good.

Not necessarily. A balance of power can be better for us regular folks at the bottom. Frankly I feel safer in a world where there's at least some non-US social media than a world where people who run the US run everything and no-one can call them out.

> Of course nobody wants to make it illegal to see propaganda.

Then what exactly is this bill aiming for?

Re: Senate passes TikTok ban bill, sending it to President Biden's desk

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I don't care either way. I think it'll be really interesting to see how people react to this though. Do Americans learn how vpns work suddenly, do tiktok users just switch to reels like nothing happened. Do we snap out of our social media trance. It's like playing sim city and causing a little social chaos lol

> do tiktok users just switch to reels like nothing happened

Yeah. The content there is already crossposted from TikTok anyway, now it will just be created there by default. Zero functional difference. Plus the YouTube Shorts algorithm has gotten a lot less overtly awful in the last year.

Re: Senate passes TikTok ban bill, sending it to President Biden's desk

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I don't care either way. I think it'll be really interesting to see how people react to this though. Do Americans learn how vpns work suddenly, do tiktok users just switch to reels like nothing happened. Do we snap out of our social media trance. It's like playing sim city and causing a little social chaos lol

> do tiktok users just switch to reels like nothing happened Yeah. The content there is already crossposted from TikTok anyway, now it will just be created there by default. Zero functional difference. Plus the YouTube Shorts algorithm has gotten a lot less overtly awful in the last year.

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Re: Senate passes TikTok ban bill, sending it to President Biden's desk

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> an authoritarian regime, one with a long track record of censorship, transnational repression, and promotion of disinformation So…the US government then?

Can you explain in what way the US is authoritarian? I don't feel it on a personal level at all. I mean, the dept of motor vehicles is pretty strict, but other than that...

Try starting a business that has anything to do with the financial system.

Re: Senate passes TikTok ban bill, sending it to President Biden's desk

#59
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Bit hysterical, but do you think there's actual value in keeping Tiktok around?

The value is in not taking yet another step towards overbearing authoritarianism.

If the CCP "wins" we'll be dealing with overbearing authoritarianism regardless.

Re: Senate passes TikTok ban bill, sending it to President Biden's desk

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> “In the context of social media platforms used by nearly half of Americans, it’s not hard to imagine how a platform that facilitates so much commerce, political discourse, and social debate could be covertly manipulated to serve the goals of an authoritarian regime, one with a long track record of censorship, transnational repression, and promotion of disinformation.” Mark Warner (D-VA), Senate Intelligence Committ…

If America truly wanted to protect the data of Americans, shouldn’t they instead have passed a law granting that data some protection?
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