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Senate passes TikTok ban bill, sending it to President Biden's desk

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Re: Senate passes TikTok ban bill, sending it to President Biden's desk

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> “In the context of social media platforms used by nearly half of Americans, it’s not hard to imagine how a platform that facilitates so much commerce, political discourse, and social debate could be covertly manipulated to serve the goals of an authoritarian regime, one with a long track record of censorship, transnational repression, and promotion of disinformation.” Mark Warner (D-VA), Senate Intelligence Committ…

Mark Warner has gotten $343,211 from AIPAC. He cares about placating Israel, not protecting our data. If you can find a politician who says this but doesn't take money from AIPAC, I might be a little more convinced.

Re: Senate passes TikTok ban bill, sending it to President Biden's desk

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Veto it on the grounds that it would cost Biden the election and that would be disastrous for me personally

Do you care to elaborate on this? Because paying $5/gal gasoline and $8 for a carton of eggs is disastrous for me personally.

> Because paying $5/gal gasoline and $8 for a carton of eggs is disastrous for me personally.

I get $5/gal gasoline being a bummer (not that I would notice since I have an EV), but where do you live where eggs cost $8 a carton? I can get 18 for Seriously, I wonder if Trump supporters are just making bad buying decision and then blaming Bidenomics for it?

When I lived in Switzerland, I had a lot of price shocks to go through, but my stipend was pretty high so I guess it made sense (more money, more expensive eggs). The recent inflation has been kind of like that (but my earnings went up a lot at the same time, maybe that's not usual?).

Re: Senate passes TikTok ban bill, sending it to President Biden's desk

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FYI, I used a tool I develop [1] to look into this, and came to the following conclusions: - Biden will sign the bill (>95%) - The Commerce Secretary will start the 12 month clock (>95%) - TikTok will challenge the ruling (>95%), which may delay the clock starting to delist or divest, but they are unlikely to win (20%) - And if they lose, they will succeed in selling to a US company (75%) - The sale will be for $30-5…

I'll agree that Walmart seems an unlikely candidate.

Re: Senate passes TikTok ban bill, sending it to President Biden's desk

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> “In the context of social media platforms used by nearly half of Americans, it’s not hard to imagine how a platform that facilitates so much commerce, political discourse, and social debate could be covertly manipulated to serve the goals of an authoritarian regime, one with a long track record of censorship, transnational repression, and promotion of disinformation.” Mark Warner (D-VA), Senate Intelligence Committ…

Americans are knowingly giving up that data.

Re: Senate passes TikTok ban bill, sending it to President Biden's desk

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> “In the context of social media platforms used by nearly half of Americans, it’s not hard to imagine how a platform that facilitates so much commerce, political discourse, and social debate could be covertly manipulated to serve the goals of an authoritarian regime, one with a long track record of censorship, transnational repression, and promotion of disinformation.” Mark Warner (D-VA), Senate Intelligence Committ…

The only thing they are afraid of is being exposed. Simply exposing the vast weaknesses of the ruling elite in the country is has a stronger effect than what most people consider to be overtly propaganda.

Re: Senate passes TikTok ban bill, sending it to President Biden's desk

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> “In the context of social media platforms used by nearly half of Americans, it’s not hard to imagine how a platform that facilitates so much commerce, political discourse, and social debate could be covertly manipulated to serve the goals of an authoritarian regime, one with a long track record of censorship, transnational repression, and promotion of disinformation.” Mark Warner (D-VA), Senate Intelligence Committ…

Mark Warner has gotten $343,211 from AIPAC. He cares about placating Israel, not protecting our data. If you can find a politician who says this but doesn't take money from AIPAC, I might be a little more convinced.

Maybe they have evidence that much of the pro-Palestian content on TikTok is stoked by Chinese bot accounts

Re: Senate passes TikTok ban bill, sending it to President Biden's desk

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Veto it on the grounds that it would cost Biden the election and that would be disastrous for me personally

* An ENEMY STATE has controlling influence of a widely used social network in the USA. People's minds are influenced by it .. "You are what you eat" holds for what you read/watch and consequently think * This legislation won't lose Biden the election, banning abortion by an insurrectionist will win it * We are in a country that needs people to work together to be a successful country - we are big and highly populated…

> An ENEMY STATE has controlling influence of a widely used social network in the USA. People's minds are influenced by it .. "You are what you eat" holds for what you read/watch and consequently think

How are you defining an enemy, and why does it matter whether they're a state or not? There are several domestic entities (governmental and non) that I would consider much bigger threats to me and the people I care about than the PRC government.

And if you're not willing to let people read/watch widely and make up their own minds, what good is being a "democracy" or even an independent state at all? If I wanted to only watch state-approved media then I'd move to China.

Re: Senate passes TikTok ban bill, sending it to President Biden's desk

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> “In the context of social media platforms used by nearly half of Americans, it’s not hard to imagine how a platform that facilitates so much commerce, political discourse, and social debate could be covertly manipulated to serve the goals of an authoritarian regime, one with a long track record of censorship, transnational repression, and promotion of disinformation.” Mark Warner (D-VA), Senate Intelligence Committ…

Mark Warner has gotten $343,211 from AIPAC. He cares about placating Israel, not protecting our data. If you can find a politician who says this but doesn't take money from AIPAC, I might be a little more convinced.

I care about animals but eat meat. We are fun beings with many idiosyncrasies.

Re: Senate passes TikTok ban bill, sending it to President Biden's desk

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> “In the context of social media platforms used by nearly half of Americans, it’s not hard to imagine how a platform that facilitates so much commerce, political discourse, and social debate could be covertly manipulated to serve the goals of an authoritarian regime, one with a long track record of censorship, transnational repression, and promotion of disinformation.” Mark Warner (D-VA), Senate Intelligence Committ…

Mark Warner has gotten $343,211 from AIPAC. He cares about placating Israel, not protecting our data. If you can find a politician who says this but doesn't take money from AIPAC, I might be a little more convinced.

If merely accepting donations invalidates a politicians ability to have their own views then I suppose no politician legitimately cares about anything (perhaps that’s true, but I wouldn’t bet on it).
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