Also, ethics. And not being evil. The workplace isn’t for those either.
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The Darfur Genocide is still happening, is on a much larger scale than Gaza and despite media coverage, the people who are very worked up about the Israeli actions don’t seem to care. I wonder why that is.
The US Government is not actively paying for and using UN Vetos to continue the Darfur Genocide, so there's a lot less we can directly do about it.
The US government could stop giving aid to Israel six months ago and it would have done nothing to discourage or stop Israel from doing what its done in Gaza since Oct 7, because its neither contingent on US funding nor US or UN approval.
First of all the military conflict in Gaza is asymmetric warfare, unlike Ukraine - Israel does not need any more money or weapons than it already has to destroy buildings. They already have everything they need, they already had it five years ago. No US military funding or weapons required.
Second, this is like 9/11 for Israel in terms of # of deaths of citizens (oct 7). They are not acting in a calculated manner but a vengeful manner. The UN could condemn them and nothing would happen. They have and will pursue this unless they are prevented forcefully, not merely criticized or tsk tsk'd.
The only thing that might do something to stop them from doing what they have done / are doing is economic sanctions or military intervention. But both those measures could be applied equally to Darfur or any other ongoing conflict, many of which are far more deadly than the war in Gaza currently. So it really isn't that different from those other conflicts, except optically (we love to hate on rich "white" people harming poor brown people, but when brown people kill brown people in Africa we don't really care, or Asian people kill Asian people, etc).
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Id be very happy if corporations stopped participating in any kind of politics altogether, including human rights discourse.
Just to be clear... In your worldview selling AI to a mass murdering apartheid state is not political, but talking about it is?
Hey silly you are supposed to not think it is a big deal.
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Oh please. This sort of blind “Israel is not POSSIBLY incapable of committing the same atrocities every other State is capable of committing” is a uniquely American brand of anti-anti-Semitism. Considering the actual merits and factors of a situation instead of simplifying everything to “yeah, but Jewish people have had a hard time” is exactly the sort of easily consumable useless drivel that doesn’t belong here.
I don’t get the genocide argument. Israel has complete air superiority, if genocide was the goal they could have leveled Gaza in the first day. Casualties would have been at least over 1 million not 30k. And they wouldn’t go door-to-door, drop flyers and knock-bombs (again why bother if genocide is the intent). The fact that the causality count is as low as it is considering they are fighting a genocidal terrorist or…
Why would a genocide be their intention?
But it can be the consequence, because they don't care. Then they argue that it isn't a genocide but who are they to decide? The culprit can't decide.
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> It shouldn't matter that the people doing this are Israeli, though. Why not? It certainly seems relevant to me.
"The content of their character, not the color of their skin (or passport)" per the famous saying.
I think what aaomidi was saying was that their Israeli coworkers conflated mourning murdered Palestinian civilians with supporting terrorists.
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You're essentially discounting all major civil right movements as selfish, since all included an attempt to change the behavior of large institutions and companies to accommodate what began as a minority opinion.
False analogy. A company is not a country.
A company is part of a country.
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> it is should not be within the purview of a company to make such moral judgements. Who should, if not the company who makes the product? Nobody? Courts after harm has occurred? We have these exact controls in place for military hardware. If your company builds missiles, you better believe it's your responsibility not to sell to enemies of the state. (Edit: I'd like to avoid the parent's particular example, as it's…
If you build missiles, you are not responsible for deciding who to sell to. The government is responsible for deciding who you get to sell. You are just responsible for selling only to approved buyers.
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"The content of their character, not the color of their skin (or passport)" per the famous saying.
I think what aaomidi was saying was that their Israeli coworkers conflated mourning murdered Palestinian civilians with supporting terrorists.
Right, and that was understood already. The point I'm making is that (apart from that information) they were drawing unnecessary attention to the coworkers' nationality.
Re: Google fires more workers after CEO says workplace isn’t for politics
#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh please. This sort of blind “Israel is not POSSIBLY incapable of committing the same atrocities every other State is capable of committing” is a uniquely American brand of anti-anti-Semitism. Considering the actual merits and factors of a situation instead of simplifying everything to “yeah, but Jewish people have had a hard time” is exactly the sort of easily consumable useless drivel that doesn’t belong here.
I don’t get the genocide argument. Israel has complete air superiority, if genocide was the goal they could have leveled Gaza in the first day. Casualties would have been at least over 1 million not 30k. And they wouldn’t go door-to-door, drop flyers and knock-bombs (again why bother if genocide is the intent). The fact that the causality count is as low as it is considering they are fighting a genocidal terrorist or…
Debate over word definition semantics is badly missing the point given how many innocent people are being killed.
I'd pedantically classify this as "not genocide" based on my understanding of the word but it's still 100x as bad as, say, Srebenica.
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I think what aaomidi was saying was that their Israeli coworkers conflated mourning murdered Palestinian civilians with supporting terrorists.
Right, and that was understood already. The point I'm making is that (apart from that information) they were drawing unnecessary attention to the coworkers' nationality.
Their nationality is relevant because they are Israeli and Israel and Gaza are at war.