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I dunno, stuff like the IBM Nazi thing or the helmet tracking used on slaves in Qatar is kinda... kinda gives bad vibes, I guess.
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This is very obviously not to be taken literally.
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Re: Google fires more workers after CEO says workplace isn’t for politics
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Not intervening is different than actively supporting. We have given ~ a hundred billion and are about to give tens of billions more in no strings attached military aid. We used our UN Veto dozens of times to prevent calling for a ceasefire Should we intervene for the Uyghurs? Maybe! But this one seems way more obvious
If that were truly the reason there are protests there wouldn't be any support in Europe, when in reality the movements there are far bigger than in the US. I mean, sorry, but the black flags and open hostility towards Jews shows what at least a large percentage of the movement is really about. Especially in Europe. The rest of the movement is the same as leftist movements, imho. It's also not about supporting Palest…
you are like a third right-
First, no its not about tax dollars, you're right. It's about the US actively participating. Its something we have the power to easily stop doing. If what's happening in Palestine is comparable to the Uyghurs you're conceding that there are human rights problems.
As for antisemitism is Europe, I can't say. You might be right there. But in the US, most of it as far as I can tell is being horrified at pictures and videos of what's happening and feeling responsible. A lot of people hate what happened in the global war on terror and this is very comparable. I won't say that there is Nobody in it for antisemitic reasons here but I think that's a terrible awful reason, I disavow any antisemitism, and i believe that the vast majority of US people in the movement aren't.
The fight vs solution thing, I'm a little baffled by. Yeah the point of blocking the golden gate bridge is to show that things aren't stable in the status quo, that's how protests work. But it sounds like you're saying that getting a reaction is the entire goal and that's uncharitable and untrue
Re: Google fires more workers after CEO says workplace isn’t for politics
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Just to be clear... In your worldview selling AI to a mass murdering apartheid state is not political, but talking about it is?
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Oh please. This sort of blind “Israel is not POSSIBLY incapable of committing the same atrocities every other State is capable of committing” is a uniquely American brand of anti-anti-Semitism. Considering the actual merits and factors of a situation instead of simplifying everything to “yeah, but Jewish people have had a hard time” is exactly the sort of easily consumable useless drivel that doesn’t belong here.
Re: Google fires more workers after CEO says workplace isn’t for politics
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not intervening is different than actively supporting. We have given ~ a hundred billion and are about to give tens of billions more in no strings attached military aid. We used our UN Veto dozens of times to prevent calling for a ceasefire Should we intervene for the Uyghurs? Maybe! But this one seems way more obvious
If that were truly the reason there are protests there wouldn't be any support in Europe, when in reality the movements there are far bigger than in the US. I mean, sorry, but the black flags and open hostility towards Jews shows what at least a large percentage of the movement is really about. Especially in Europe. The rest of the movement is the same as leftist movements, imho. It's also not about supporting Palest…
> It's not about saving tax dollars ... Yes, there's 1% fringe rightists in there. But seriously? It's not about that.
That's missing the point about money. Buying the murder weapon is not in the same category as all the inactions that may go into knowing a murder will happen and not ultimately stopping it.
Re: Google fires more workers after CEO says workplace isn’t for politics
#165Google did nothing about Israeli co-workers at Google sending me messages such as "Do you support Hamas?" They targeted me because I +1ed a memegen post mourning civilians who have died in Gaza. I'll even explicitly say this: They were on the search experience team. Multiple of them were also managers. (Both Engineer Managers and Hiring Managers)
Very helpful to know. It shouldn't matter that the people doing this are Israeli, though. Either way, let's hear more reports from other Googlers, please.
> It shouldn't matter that the people doing this are Israeli, though.
Why not? It certainly seems relevant to me.
Re: Google fires more workers after CEO says workplace isn’t for politics
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Very helpful to know. It shouldn't matter that the people doing this are Israeli, though. Either way, let's hear more reports from other Googlers, please.
> It shouldn't matter that the people doing this are Israeli, though. Why not? It certainly seems relevant to me.
"The content of their character, not the color of their skin (or passport)" per the famous saying.
Re: Google fires more workers after CEO says workplace isn’t for politics
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If that were truly the reason there are protests there wouldn't be any support in Europe, when in reality the movements there are far bigger than in the US. I mean, sorry, but the black flags and open hostility towards Jews shows what at least a large percentage of the movement is really about. Especially in Europe. The rest of the movement is the same as leftist movements, imho. It's also not about supporting Palest…
> It's not about saving tax dollars ... Yes, there's 1% fringe rightists in there. But seriously? It's not about that. That's missing the point about money. Buying the murder weapon is not in the same category as all the inactions that may go into knowing a murder will happen and not ultimately stopping it.
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Thinking politics can be removed from any company is wishful thinking. The "best" they can do is mirror status quo and avoid confrontation. This is sometimes wrongly referred to as "neutrality".
Folks saying politics should get removed are effectively saying they're fine with the status quo. Its intellectually dishonest for people to not recognize this in themselves with that opinion. Everything we do is inherently political as we are operating in this political landscape. LGBTQ+ being welcomed in tech in the earlier days is partially what's responsible for the LGBTQ+ being somewhat welcomed in society in ge…
> Its intellectually dishonest for people to not recognize this in themselves with that opinion. Everything we do is inherently political as we are operating in this political landscape.
This is how fundamentalists think, whether religious or political. Everything is somehow tied to their ideology and they want to push it everywhere.
I wonder if they know how insufferable they are.
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Oh please. This sort of blind “Israel is not POSSIBLY incapable of committing the same atrocities every other State is capable of committing” is a uniquely American brand of anti-anti-Semitism. Considering the actual merits and factors of a situation instead of simplifying everything to “yeah, but Jewish people have had a hard time” is exactly the sort of easily consumable useless drivel that doesn’t belong here.
I don’t get the genocide argument. Israel has complete air superiority, if genocide was the goal they could have leveled Gaza in the first day. Casualties would have been at least over 1 million not 30k. And they wouldn’t go door-to-door, drop flyers and knock-bombs (again why bother if genocide is the intent). The fact that the causality count is as low as it is considering they are fighting a genocidal terrorist organization that’s honeycombed itself in heavily populated civilian centers is already an achievement.
Re: Google fires more workers after CEO says workplace isn’t for politics
#170You do do know that there is this "behavioral clause" that is in your employment contract.