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The man who killed Google Search?

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Re: The man who killed Google Search?

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post #68

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Not sure what you are getting at. Care to elaborate? Google wouldn’t exist without websites to index.

Its not robbery if you never had the rights to it? You misused that word.

What would be a better word, given the context?

Re: The man who killed Google Search?

#112

Everytime I need to make a search on Google, I start to feel anxious, already convinced I'm not going to find anything useful about the problem I'm trying to solve. This often means I already tried everything else. It's a sad situation.a product shouldn't make you feel anxious.

Kagi ftw

Re: The man who killed Google Search?

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post #107

Question : Why larry and brin not caring about it ? They built one of world's best and biggest company and it's dying . Even if they did not care about that , their money is still tied to google stock right ? That should raise some concern from them.

I can imagine this happening in many places: 1) Idealist phase. 2) Hype phase. 3) Novelty wears off = Leave. 4) Bean counter phase. 5) ???

What does it mean ?

Re: The man who killed Google Search?

#114

I switched over to DDG sometime in 2017 or 2018, haven't used Google Search since.

I try. I swear to god I try. Then the DDG search results come up, and they're just dumb. It's like they trained some dog to bring the search results. If it were a dog coming up with them, you would be amazed and rightly so. The dog reads, it vaguely understands the topic you're looking for. It can sort of find something related to it, but not really relevant. But look, it's actually a god doing it. Woohoo.

Of course, there is no dog, sadly. It's just some half-assed algorithm and a company too poor to spider the entire internet often or consistently. And when it fails, as it does more often than not, I search again on Google. This is the part where I'm dumb though. I know Google won't find what I want. This is 2024's Google, not 2015's Google. It has been nearly a decade now since it returned good results, useful results. Maybe I am performing a ritual, praying that the original Google returns. Maybe I have defective cognition and an addictive personality.

I no longer even know for certain whether Google was ever as good as I remember it to be. Maybe I have imagined it.

Re: The man who killed Google Search?

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post #35

I think this article would work better if it were written entirely like textbook traditional investigative journalism. And less like the modern TV opinion personality, or the random strong-opinion Web comments in which many of the rest of us (including myself) indulge.

I was strongly motivated to upvote and share this article. I probably upvote and share 1/500 articles I read on this website. So I disagree, I think his tone helps convey how the bulk of people feel about Google's search product and gives us a name to actually blame. Whereas every other blog writes about the decline of Google with a sad tone underwritten with nostalgia and always fails to provide any sort of root cau…

> and gives us a name to actually blame.

Understanding the dynamics is great, and we can learn from that, and apply it to other situations.

As for who to blame for something a company does, shouldn't outsiders blame the entire company? That's our interface, and also how we can hold the company accountable for its collective behavior.

It's also a defense against scapegoating: it wasn't just one person who made a unilateral decision, and everyone else -- up to and including the board, as well as down the tree, to those who knew and could walk and/or whistleblow -- was totally powerless. The company as an entity is responsible, and a lot of individuals were key or complicit.

Re: The man who killed Google Search?

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100 billion (round figured) isn't a lot when you are going to create a new large company or invent fusion or fix climate .

I have impression they just enjoy their billioners lives, and do not have ambitions anymore. Also Larry has some sickness, so, maybe he has other life issues depending on his current condition.

Do you have a link ?

Re: The man who killed Google Search?

#117
post #44

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I feel like google is prioritizing reddit way more than regular forums . Quora is the second most annoying thing , Search for y , Click on top result which is Quora > Either it's a personal opinion or a brand account answering or the real answer is locked behind subscription . Not to mention the dominance of large brands like this https://detailed.com/google-control/ and non existent personal sites . But i am still p…

Quora and LinkedIn are also heavily overrun with AI garbage. Quora does it flat out, and LinkedIn launched Pulse to farm millions of AI generated topics and then invite its users to contribute. LinkedIn is now one of the top results for topics like metaphysics, quantum physics, etc. It’s a clown show.

I've also noticed that I'm getting top results from companies who definitely have big AdSense spend, theres likely a bias or ads aren't labeled at all. However, with some companies I sometimes find that the page being listed often doesn't even exist anymore or is simply just a title of an article who's keywords match popular searches but there is actually no content or blog post, just a title..This SEO strategy somehow can get you top ranked on Google these days. Yeah RIP Google.

Re: The man who killed Google Search?

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post #101

Anybody have a better title? 'Better' here means (1) less baity; (2) more accurate and neutral; and (3) preferably a representative phrase from the article itself. "The man who killed Google Search" is too baity. See the 'unless' in https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html : " Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait " Edit (since there are objections): I'm not taking a position for…

"Linkbait" implies it's hyperbole, but I would argue that the headline is a perfect description of the argument being made here.

Re: The man who killed Google Search?

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post #104

It's April 23rd, 2024, and I am still looking for a good, reliable, honest and simple search engine. All I want to do is search. No AI. No ads. No shopping. Please don't "Answer my question." I enjoy doing my own original research, thanks. I'm entirely willing - wanting even - to pay for it. Currently Kagi has my $, but I'm saddened and frustrated that they're not even focused on Search, they're focused on AI[1] and…

honestly, 99% of the time I don't need search. I want AI. I don't want to have to use a weird syntax to 'talk to a search engine'. sometimes I don't even know what the word is that I am searching for. I want something I can just ... talk to.

I use to use search every day, now I use it about once a month.

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