The man who killed Google Search? • Hacker News Board

Re: The man who killed Google Search?

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Post by OnionBlender » Tue, Apr 23, 2024, 5:47 PM UTC

I'm so sick of search systems ignoring or changing my search string. LinkedIn is especially bad for this. If I search for "OpenGL", many of the results don't contain the one word I searched for. Many of the results are "promoted" jobs from Microsoft that have nothing to do with graphics.

On Apple’s job site, it will include OpenCL jobs in addition to OpenGL.

It is probably more efficient for my time and sanity to create a web scraper and run my own searches offline. At least for searching for job postings.

Re: The man who killed Google Search?

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Apr 23, 2024, 5:47 PM UTC

sidcool wrote: post #24

Wow. This man seems to have a personal grudge against Raghavan. I knew people hate Pichai, but this brutal.

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Re: The man who killed Google Search?

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Post by Scoundreller » Tue, Apr 23, 2024, 5:47 PM UTC

shombaboor wrote: post #14

Thinking about search ads over time, I had forgotten how ads were clearly marked in a blue box way back when.

Now I just don’t see them at all!

Re: The man who killed Google Search?

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Post by danielmarkbruce » Tue, Apr 23, 2024, 5:48 PM UTC

arromatic wrote: post #22

Question : Why larry and brin not caring about it ? They built one of world's best and biggest company and it's dying . Even if they did not care about that , their money is still tied to google stock right ? That should raise some concern from them.

speculation: they care, they know the people involved, and think highly of them.

Larry & Sergey are only humans. They can get bamboozled by people just like anyone. And they are in a situation where the very best bamboozlers are trying to bamboozle them, all the time. The people "failing up" are, in some cases, the Lebron James's of bamboozlement.

It's quite strange to see very capable people fall for such types, but it happens, I've seen it - and everyone around saw it except the very capable person.

Re: The man who killed Google Search?

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Post by neilv » Tue, Apr 23, 2024, 5:48 PM UTC

I think this article would work better if it were written entirely like textbook traditional investigative journalism. And less like the modern TV opinion personality, or the random strong-opinion Web comments in which many of the rest of us (including myself) indulge.

Re: The man who killed Google Search?

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Post by throwawaymaroon » Tue, Apr 23, 2024, 5:49 PM UTC

refulgentis wrote: post #13

This is a bit long and histrionical in a ways that can make it seem to lack credibility, at times -- easiest example: maybe there was a joke in 2008 that "Code Yellow" was named after a lead's tanktop. But it's very much what you'd think, there's a "Code Red" and "Code Yellow" and Code Red is DEFCON 1, not Code Yellow. Shorthand for signalling "this is your manager^3 saying its okay to work on this, in case your mana…

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Re: The man who killed Google Search?

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Post by lo_fye » Tue, Apr 23, 2024, 5:49 PM UTC

The thing I love about this story is that it demonstrates that even in a global mega-organization, a single person can make a huge difference, for better (Gomes) or for worse (Raghavan).

Re: The man who killed Google Search?

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Post by zaphar » Tue, Apr 23, 2024, 5:49 PM UTC

refulgentis wrote: post #13

This is a bit long and histrionical in a ways that can make it seem to lack credibility, at times -- easiest example: maybe there was a joke in 2008 that "Code Yellow" was named after a lead's tanktop. But it's very much what you'd think, there's a "Code Red" and "Code Yellow" and Code Red is DEFCON 1, not Code Yellow. Shorthand for signalling "this is your manager^3 saying its okay to work on this, in case your mana…

As a Xoogler from 2007-2013 it saddens me to hear how it's changed since I was there. At the time it was definitely one of the best places to work in tech for me at least.

Re: The man who killed Google Search?

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Post by romanhn » Tue, Apr 23, 2024, 5:51 PM UTC

neilv wrote: post #35

I think this article would work better if it were written entirely like textbook traditional investigative journalism. And less like the modern TV opinion personality, or the random strong-opinion Web comments in which many of the rest of us (including myself) indulge.

Agreed. I struggled to keep going after "computer scientist class traitor". A very juvenile take that reflects poorly on the author, IMO.

Re: The man who killed Google Search?

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Post by ethbr1 » Tue, Apr 23, 2024, 5:51 PM UTC

fireflash38 wrote: post #20

The tech fluff pieces are wild. And that entire paragraph about how the execs for Yahoo failed horribly, hired a new one, and that one lied about his degrees, and they hired another . People failing with golden parachutes, and others failing upwards into even more lucrative roles. I think that's the thing that is eating away at the core of our society: basic contracts like "fail and you won't get rewarded" or "succee…

Imho, the problem is scale.

At certain company sizes, the direct output of entire divisions ceases to be visible to leadership.

What they receive instead are reports that filter up through management.

Consequently, when they promote people, they're doing so on the basis of what they've seen.

Invariably, this selects for shitty business types who can spend the majority of their time ensuring their name is first on successful initiatives and scrubbed off failed ones.

You know what it would take for a technologist to match that?

200% time: 100% to get the job done + 100% to match corporate politicking