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Why do we allow human trials of new drugs?
Consent
Waymo illegal overtake into wrong-way driving
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Sure, but this article is about Waymo. We can create a new link about "unicycle rider with a camera driving on the opposite lane", but that's another topic
The topic would not gather nearly as much attention. Why?
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#94When are we going to admit that the current level of understanding and technical capabilities are not sufficient for safe autonomous driving?
I'd put this inherent danger at somewhere around 0.1% of the time. I'd say I'm forced to drive dangerously about once every 10 miles of driving, but the fact that people must drive dangerously occasionally to use the system means that a machine can't ever learn to use it safely.
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Consent
The people surrounding the trial participant didn't give consent, if the drug causes a violent psychosis which in turn causes people to be injured by the participant, how does that differ?
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#96I would be curious to know what the car thought the situation was, something must have gone really wrong here. It ignored the double lines and crossed them to overtake and then stayed in the wrong lane for a really long time. If the car understood the state of the world around this, this is kind of a huge mistake in behaviour. And if it didn't it is concerning as well as it would mean it can end up in the opposite la…
It’s kinda funny that the Waymo car is so impatient. I’m pretty sure in this situation I would have just waited until the group ride cleared out to ahead of me and then continued. I would not want to crowd or find my way around them. If I wanted to get past such a big group ride I would probably reroute onto another block since they would keep catching me at stop lights.
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#97Waymo told the Chronicle in a statement that the robotaxi “detected that there may be a risk of a person within that crowd who had fallen down, and decided to carefully initiate a passing maneuver when the opposing lane was clear to move around what could be an obstacle and a safety concern.” “After starting that maneuver, out of an abundance of caution around these vulnerable road users, and to avoid getting too clo…
That statement is PR bullshit, I expected better from Waymo. Nobody fell, so it misidentified the situation. And there was nothing careful about the overtake maneuver here, there was no safe place to end the maneuver in sight. These kinds of mistakes will very likely happen with self-driving cars, the important part is to address them and improve the cars. I don't expect the cars to be flawless from the start (I do e…
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The people surrounding the trial participant didn't give consent, if the drug causes a violent psychosis which in turn causes people to be injured by the participant, how does that differ?
You are quickly moving the goalposts I see. Have fun with that exercise.
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You are quickly moving the goalposts I see. Have fun with that exercise.
I don't think I am, I think they are comparable, they are both regulated tests of new technology in real world situations where there is no practical alternative in order to determine if they are fit for purpose.
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#100https://youtu.be/zdKCQKBvH-A?t=742
These companies should be fined hefty amounts and barred from beta testing out in public and putting people in danger. Governments should carry out comprehensive tests on a self-driving car's capabilities, same as cars without proven passenger safety (Euro NCAP) aren't allowed to be on roads carrying passengers.
And now this great AI company is also providing AI services to pariah states like Apartheid Israel to be used on people. That's scary.