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I sure did. And I sure did even bigger screwups while driving.
Totally. There is no ignoring it is in the wrong but this does not seem that serious to me. It did not plow into other cars or the unicycle folks.
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> Maybe it thought they were on a bike lane? Where I'm from it's illegal to ride like that in a group outside of police-sanctioned events I’m in Massachusetts where lane splitting is legal in some cases (single lane each direction, posted speed limit below some amount, probably something else). Some other states have similar rules, but in most it’s flatly illegal. I believe California is an unusual outlier in that la…
FYI, lane splitting coventionally refers to driving a small vehicle between lanes of stopped or slow cars, rather than multiple small vehicles riding side by side within one lane [1]. The first is unconditionally illegal in Massachusetts, while the second is conditionally legal like you say. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lane_splitting
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It’s kinda funny that the Waymo car is so impatient. I’m pretty sure in this situation I would have just waited until the group ride cleared out to ahead of me and then continued. I would not want to crowd or find my way around them. If I wanted to get past such a big group ride I would probably reroute onto another block since they would keep catching me at stop lights.
Once I saw that Waymo rage pass all of those bicyclists, I knew we finally solved self driving cars.
I would be curious to know what the car thought the situation was, something must have gone really wrong here. It ignored the double lines and crossed them to overtake and then stayed in the wrong lane for a really long time. If the car understood the state of the world around this, this is kind of a huge mistake in behaviour. And if it didn't it is concerning as well as it would mean it can end up in the opposite la…
My guess is that the police car in the wrong lane confused the system. If a car is going in a direction, 99% of the time it's safe to follow the car and go in the same direction.
FWIW: The driving test (at least in Blighty) teaches you to look as far down the road as you can, never to just do what the bloke in front is doing.
This is kind of cute, in a dystopian way. "Waymo you're going the wrong way!" and the human uni-cyclist steers in front of Waymo, knowing that it will brake, in an attempt to force it back into the correct lane.
That's a level of optimism I don't have....
...on the same level as a bloke I saw advertising a food blender on the shopping channel, sticking his fingers into the thing to prove the safety mechanism would stop the blades.
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Totally. There is no ignoring it is in the wrong but this does not seem that serious to me. It did not plow into other cars or the unicycle folks.
Next week when it does plow into a bunch of people or causes a pileup we'll have people saying "I did much worse when I was young, people do it all the time"
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My guess is that the police car in the wrong lane confused the system. If a car is going in a direction, 99% of the time it's safe to follow the car and go in the same direction.
This is the mentality that leads to multiple pile ups in fog, because every idiot is looking at the tail lights in front of them. FWIW: The driving test (at least in Blighty) teaches you to look as far down the road as you can, never to just do what the bloke in front is doing.
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> I've seen many human drivers doing equally stupid things Just yesterday I got yelled at by an Italian police officer who was directing traffic at a busy junction (I was in a rental car). [Full disclosure: I stopped, wound my window down, we had a polite conversation, everything turned out fine...] The key difference is that if I screw up badly enough when driving, I risk a monetary fine and/or losing my licence and…
> Could the fleet get grounded? Cruise's permit was suspended after their accident
I suspect this is human error rather than a computer error. Waymo is a supervised system -- from what I've heard while there's little remote driving by humans, there is occasional real-time human labelling and confirmation. So the car likely phoned home to ask "what the heck is this?", and a human clicked on the "overtake" button or something.
>a human clicked on the “overtake” button Ok. So what are the consequences for this human operator and/or Waymo? Human drivers make mistakes all the time, it’s true. But there are consequences for those mistakes. If a human drives into the opposite lane that’s a big problem, especially if they end up causing property damage or bodily injury. Why are the same standards not being applied here?
If you're Waymo apparently you can tell the car to run a red light, cause a moped to crash and not even need to report it to the state.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradtempleton/2024/03/26/waymo-...