i find it interesting that this press release uses the term "AIoT" (AI Internet of Things) four times without even bothering to define it
Espressif Acquires Majority Stake in M5Stack
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#152Ah, M5 and ESP32, I bought so many things from both companies and didn't find the time to use them :-) #GAS
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#153This is Espressif competing with its own partners, right?
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#154i find it interesting that this press release uses the term "AIoT" (AI Internet of Things) four times without even bothering to define it
No idea what the term means and I used to gravitate around the IoT world. That usually means you're not the target audience for the press release content.
For us the title already gives all the information we need.
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#155I really like the concept of the M5Stack product line and was ready to suggest it to some friends that were looking into getting into embedded programming / gadget building, but a recent experience has given me some pause...
I was debugging an issue with a gps chip on a custom PCB and decided to get a reference hardware implementation to do some sanity checking. After doing some searching I found the M5Stack U032 GPS module which claimed to use the same chip and amplifier that was on the PCB...
So I ordered it and it showed up and printed on the case is the model # of the GPS chip which matched the documentation. Doing due diligence I open the case and notice that the footprint of the GPS chip on the board doesn't match the datasheet for that IC and there is no identification marking stamped on the chip housing, but there is a spot of glue residue where it looks a sticker was removed...
After some sleuthing I finally identified the gps chip on the board, which was not the chip listed in the documentation or printed on the case of the module!
I can understand having documentation that gets out of sync, but the fact that it looks like an identification sticker was intentionally removed from the chip housing leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.
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#156i find it interesting that this press release uses the term "AIoT" (AI Internet of Things) four times without even bothering to define it
No idea what the term means and I used to gravitate around the IoT world. That usually means you're not the target audience for the press release content. For us the title already gives all the information we need.
oh, i'm more cynical, i think it means they've decided to stuff AI nonsense into what was great embedded hardware
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
No idea what the term means and I used to gravitate around the IoT world. That usually means you're not the target audience for the press release content. For us the title already gives all the information we need.
oh, i'm more cynical, i think it means they've decided to stuff AI nonsense into what was great embedded hardware
Nah, they're probably trying to attach themselves to all the AI hype with e.g. devices capable of doing local inference (like cameras).
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#158Have half a dozen M5Stack based devices using ESPHome. There's a big community supporting that. When I tried developing using an IDE found them more troublesome.
>IDE
Tried Platform.IO?
https://platformio.org/platformio-ide
As much as I despise IDE's for embedded systems development, I've become quite a fan of the PlatformIO IDE solution .. its quite comfortable, and being able to switch to PlatformIO-CLI tooling has made for a "best of both worlds" scenario.
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#159ESP32 has effectively become the go-to family of RISC-V microcontrollers (excluding some earlier Tensilica-based chips). They are a pleasure to work with, be it the programming methods, documentation or esp-idf SDK.
My only qualm with ESP32 is the toolchain doesn't really work with openbsd - probably not with any Unix that isn't Linux. Other than that, it's a pleasure to work with them.
I am using IDF with ESP32-C3 on FreeBSD with this unofficial port https://github.com/trombik/xtensa-esp32-elf
Zig works without external toolchain (only OpenOCD from link above).
I agree, they are pleasure to work with (documentation, code examples, JTAG+USB already on chip die) especially in comparison with Bouffalo offerings
Re: Espressif Acquires Majority Stake in M5Stack
#160I really like the concept of the M5Stack product line and was ready to suggest it to some friends that were looking into getting into embedded programming / gadget building, but a recent experience has given me some pause... I was debugging an issue with a gps chip on a custom PCB and decided to get a reference hardware implementation to do some sanity checking. After doing some searching I found the M5Stack U032 GPS…
Perhaps Espressif will improve this situation. Seems like their product line is generally decently documented at the diagram-block level at least. Obviously with embedded platforms, "proper" documentation can stretch into the range of 1000+ pages (e.g. what you'd expect to see from ARM), and Espressif doesn't deliver documentation to that level of detail with their ESP32 / ESP8266 offerings.
But despite the lack of super granular detail, I haven't ever noticed their high-level documentation being straight-up misleading like that.