Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't Clear just a more exclusive TSA PreCheck? It only works because the normies haven't saturated it.
It's actually worse because you still have to go through the normal security check, you just get to skip the line. This may be dependent on the airport though.
Airport security line cutters are target of first-in-the-nation California bill
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Re: Airport security line cutters are target of first-in-the-nation California bill
#12Can someone share background on how they got privileges in the first place (as a startup) to escort passengers to the front of the queue? Do they act as designated reps of the airlines?
https://onezero.medium.com/clear-conquered-u-s-airports-now-...
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#13No idea if this will pass or not but paying a private company to cut lines in airports seemed like a flimsy value prop
As someone who uses Clear, it has a significant benefit in that, for a comparatively low cost, it makes time through the airport more consistent. If I have priority check-in through airline status, or am not checking baggage, then security waiting time is the main variable in the time to get from the terminal entrance to the gate (we'll ignore disaster airports like LAX where time from the freeway to the terminal is…
Re: Airport security line cutters are target of first-in-the-nation California bill
#14First, Clear is not present at all airports. Sometimes it's not even available at all terminals of the same airport (see JFK terminal 7 2 years ago) https://www.clearme.com/where-to-use-clear
Secondly, Clear lines clear (heh) much slower than the TSA-pre lines. EWR is a great example of this.
Lastly, TSA-Pre is going to eat Clear's lunch with their new programs: https://www.tsa.gov/news/press/releases/2024/03/06/tsa-and-d...
https://www.afar.com/magazine/tsa-precheck-is-introducing-se...
Re: Airport security line cutters are target of first-in-the-nation California bill
#15A little zero-sum class warfare to distract from the fact that the TSA is the most wasteful and useless government agency in human history.
Re: Airport security line cutters are target of first-in-the-nation California bill
#16No idea if this will pass or not but paying a private company to cut lines in airports seemed like a flimsy value prop
As someone who uses Clear, it has a significant benefit in that, for a comparatively low cost, it makes time through the airport more consistent. If I have priority check-in through airline status, or am not checking baggage, then security waiting time is the main variable in the time to get from the terminal entrance to the gate (we'll ignore disaster airports like LAX where time from the freeway to the terminal is…
The question is why a non governmental entity is inserted into the middle of transportation security, with a profit incentive.
There already existed an entire apparatus for airport transportation security. There already existed an entire apparatus for fingerprint and other biometric verification to expedite the security screening process (precheck and global entry).
So then why did the government give Clear the right to bypass the official process? Why not just have a precheck plus or whatever system? Why not just have everyone do their biometrics when they do them every 5 years for precheck as it is?
Re: Airport security line cutters are target of first-in-the-nation California bill
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't Clear just a more exclusive TSA PreCheck? It only works because the normies haven't saturated it.
It's actually worse because you still have to go through the normal security check, you just get to skip the line. This may be dependent on the airport though.
Re: Airport security line cutters are target of first-in-the-nation California bill
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't Clear just a more exclusive TSA PreCheck? It only works because the normies haven't saturated it.
It's actually worse because you still have to go through the normal security check, you just get to skip the line. This may be dependent on the airport though.
Clear does often have a precheck/non-precheck distinction, but when I had precheck (and not clear), I had enough trouble with miscommunications between different TSA agents about a line being one or the other that resulted in delays and secondary bag screening, at least at LAX, that it did not seem particularly useful. I did not appreciate being told by one person not to remove anything from my bag, then shouted at by another person for not having removed anything from my bag.
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#19A little zero-sum class warfare to distract from the fact that the TSA is the most wasteful and useless government agency in human history.
Unfortunately, the state government cannot alter TSA's authority.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unfortunately, the state government cannot alter TSA's authority.
How’s it work with SFO where they have their own contractors for security screening that aren’t federally employed TSA agents?