The only AI I'll ever use is CodeBERG AI: https://codeberg.org/Codeberg-Infrastructure/forgejo/pulls/8... :)
Why?
Gitlab Duo
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Re: Gitlab Duo
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I’ve been feeling more and more that we should reconsider open source licenses to protect our rights as authors from LLM vendors. I’m not against them basing their models on my work. I do have reservations on them generating their models on my work and creating derivative works without respecting the license. It’s why I’ve started to use the MIT license less and less and have adopted various from the GPL family. Mode…
If they're not respecting MIT's attribution requirement for derived works, why would they respect GPL?
They argue their use is transformative and thus the works are not derivatives.
Re: Gitlab Duo
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You're obviously not posting in good faith, but their docs are CC-BY-SA, and I comply with the terms. Bro.
No link to license: non-compliant. Less theft, less lying about compliance, more compliance please.
In the US, there's a notion of "fair use": quoting small passages with attribution for the purposes of criticism does not require reproduction of the relevant Creative Commons license. Most of the other former British colonies have the concept of "fair dealing", which is similar.
https://www.documentary.org/feature/negotiating-copyright-ex... makes interesting reading.
Re: Gitlab Duo
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Given that it's public, yes, gitlab as well as every other model on earth will be trained from it. Is it right? I don't know. Can we stop it? Absolutely not. Honestly, I find it comforting that gitlab is at least being straightforward about it
Straightforward? I very much disagree. You could maybe convince me that it is straightforward when measured against only corporate speak, but if not looked at as corporate speak it is very much not straightforward. Straightforward would be an explicit "Yes, we train from public code regardless of the license"
The only statement they can make which is accurate is that they will not train on private data.
They might train on your data if it's public. If your code is public, and it doesn't get pulled into their dataset, they won't train on it.
Re: Gitlab Duo
#95I run a self hosted Gitlab CE instance for many years now and I am very happy with it. I also experiment a lot with local LLMs. Will there be a CE release which allows for usage combined with a locally running LLM in the future?
Since the relevant code appears to be in the "ee" directory https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/blob/v16.11.0-ee/ee/l...> and is not present in the foss repo, I'm guessing the answer is no, at least for now. They do have a history of "releasing" features from EE back to CE but my suspicion is not for LLM stuff
Re: Gitlab Duo
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Are your features potentially new revenue streams? This is. Or at least they believe it can be.
~5 years ago GitLab had many features that distinguished itself from competition, chiefly their CI/CD stuff. It was leagues above of what everyone offered. They've spent the last years building stuff I don't care while not improving the stuff I care. During this period, GitHub built Actions. Nowadays GitLab is more expensive than GitHub (GitLab Premium vs GitHub Enterprise) while also not having any particular featur…
I'll also observe that several years ago they weren't a public company, and if my mental model of public companies is correct then they have a fiduciary duty to maximize shareholder value, not software engineering teams value from their product
Re: Gitlab Duo
#97Anyone using this? We use a self-hosted Gitlab for 5 years now and had to upgrade to premium after they killed the basic version. Now I would essentially have to double my spending (again) for this new feature.
> Now I would essentially have to double my spending (again) for this new feature. I guess either you believe that this AI feature is worth the new prices, or you don't. I don't. > We use a self-hosted Gitlab for 5 years now and had to upgrade to premium after they killed the basic version. Why not self-hosting an instance of Forgejo?
> Why not self-hosting an instance of Forgejo?
Have they fixed their pseudo-implementation of GitHub Actions? Last I saw they were trying to use nektos/act instead of actually, no kidding, implementing Actions and a real runner. It's the uncanny valley of CICD
Re: Gitlab Duo
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Because you get to use it too? Llama, mistral and co.
Not all models have Free weights and not all models that are Free can run on your hardware. Normally the "can't run on your hardware" is a little dubious, but given how insanely high the hardware requirements can get to run these I think it's meaningful here.
I'm still here to create a product/tool/script/solve something and not just to write code.
If anything i do helps to make the ecosystem around me better i'm for it.
And if you look at anything LLM right now, all the research happening, its not opensource doing the research. Its high paid google, ms, etc. people and academy replicates it fast for opensource.
We already have a give and take on both sides.
Without them, we would not have that at all.