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Amazon grows to over 750k robots, replacing 100k humans

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Re: Amazon grows to over 750k robots, replacing 100k humans

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There are reports that 70% of the sales had to be manually reviewed by the team in India ( https://www.businessinsider.com/amazons-just-walk-out-actual... ), so no, they weren't just training algorithms.

That article in particular was the one that was debunked. It was based on a false rumor.

Please provide evidence of your claim.

Re: Amazon grows to over 750k robots, replacing 100k humans

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Proclaiming things is very easy.

SpaceX aren't just proclaiming things. They are building a skyscraper-sized fully reusable rocket with completely new engines to get away from the Earth cheaply.

...and they are building it for NASA's Artemis program. SpaceX evaporates the moment the juicy billion dollar public contracts dry up.

Mars is still a pipe dream. You might as well give the credit to Edgar Rice Burroughs for as far as realizing it has come.

Re: Amazon grows to over 750k robots, replacing 100k humans

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Automation can eliminate lots of jobs without replacement jobs. But other times will also created new higher level jobs. Especially when automation impacts a companies total cost for a high-demand independently consumed service or product. So that decrease costs can translate into decreased pricing for an upwardly elastic demand. And the revenue growth results offsets the need for fewer workers per revenue. — But mos…

This seems a bit backwards. Most demand for automating existing jobs is driven by the specific goal to reduce workers and labour costs, so of course there will be fewer jobs afterwards than before - otherwise the automation didn't fulfill its goal from the companies' POV.

But, now that amazon is saving money on labor costs, where does that extra money go? Into the pockets of shareholders, who may then go out and use that to start other businesses which hire people, or increase their consumption of goods and services which also results in greater employment.

Re: Amazon grows to over 750k robots, replacing 100k humans

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That article in particular was the one that was debunked. It was based on a false rumor.

Debunked where? The only response is from Amazon (in the same article), who are disputing the number but still admitting that the team did intervene when needed.

https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/17/24133029/amazon-just-walk...

Re: Amazon grows to over 750k robots, replacing 100k humans

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That article in particular was the one that was debunked. It was based on a false rumor.

Can you please produce any evidence that it was debunked? I can't find anything.

https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/17/24133029/amazon-just-walk...

Re: Amazon grows to over 750k robots, replacing 100k humans

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That article in particular was the one that was debunked. It was based on a false rumor.

Please provide evidence of your claim.

https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/17/24133029/amazon-just-walk...

Re: Amazon grows to over 750k robots, replacing 100k humans

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I wish I could believe that all this automation would lead to more leisure time for all of humanity, but it certainly won’t happen on its own out of generosity from the robot owners.

We've been saying that for a long time. [Keynes predicted we'd be working 15 hour weeks by now]( https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/ecca.12439 ) The thing is, people don't actually want to tradeoff their labor time for leisure time all that well. They value consumption too much. There are plenty of 15 hour jobs out there. You can get one right now! But you'd need to have a smaller appartment, an older c…

I work full time, make triple the minimum wage, and can barely afford to live in a 256 square foot micro studio apartment.

You're dreams are not my reality.

Re: Amazon grows to over 750k robots, replacing 100k humans

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For what it’s worth, I purchased from one of these Amazon stores every day for over a year. After leaving the store, it would typically take 2+ hours before my purchases were registered in the Amazon app. I agree that there probably was a large degree of automation but based on how the store worked, there didn’t need to be an army of “real time” reviewers for humans to be involved in each individual purchase… it’s to…

I think it was from a video I watched a day or two ago, describing how with those uber and lyft and other order delivery services that consumers apparently are placing those orders wtih the services, picking up the items themselves and walking out, and then when the actual delivery person arrives, order is gone, reported as missing, the consumer also reports similarly, even though they picked up the orders themselves…

How many times can one's order be 'stolen' like this before a pattern emerges and the account is banned? This is also fraud and because it requires using the internet, it's going to lead to felony charges.

Re: Amazon grows to over 750k robots, replacing 100k humans

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Some people do do that. Try stepping outside of your bubble.

I concur. They're not looking in the right places. Musicians and artists would know about these sorts of hustles, but not your typical HN bubble dweller.

I know at least a dozen artists, and not one of them has found a side hustle that lucrative.

Instead, they get a Master's degree, and use it teach at 2 universities, and work a third job part time so they can afford rent.

Re: Amazon grows to over 750k robots, replacing 100k humans

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> remember the 1000 Indians that were watching people shop at the Amazon Go stores? > Amazon told us it was all "sensors" because it fit their company narrative to do so. I think you, like many others, fell into the trap of just looking at the headline. The 1k people were labeling training data, not watching you shop like a puppet master..

If they were labeling data the stores would still be open

All the Amazon Go stores that have been open near me for the past few years are still open. Went to one last Friday, in fact.
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