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> I don't feel like emoji add anything substantial to a textual conversation Proceeds to add an ascii emoji
Am I the only person who still calls "ASCII emoji" "emoticons"?
No, you're not. :) Emoticons aren't emoji.
I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service
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Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service
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As I have already said, with the current DNS system, that’s how it works. You have to trust that your provider won’t screw you over. It’s held together by duct tape and spit. You know, in every OTHER technology, that’s how it was before we automated things that humans previously did. You may as well have said this about telephone switchboard operators, or tying up the line, until VoIP brought the costs to zero. “Who…
You have still not answered the simple question of who, within this web3 org, controls the (.org, or even the .eth) domain. This is also a single person. Even on ENS, whom you have to trust. By moving everything onto ENS, you've, practically, not solved the issue of who controls your domain. Sure. It mightn't be the ICAN. Instead, now, it's Jeffrey who has the private keys on his ledger. Congrats!
That's like asking "who, within Bitcoin, controls the Bitcoin network".
Each person with a wallet and private keys contains neither more nor less than what they are entitled to control. Smart contracts manage collective decision making.
You should learn about "abstract accounts", i.e. smart contracts on the blockchain being the owners of different things, and acting on behalf of multiple people. This is far more secure, there is no one private key that can leak, but rather the smart contract has business logic, that everyone knows what the rules are. It's like a constitution of a country.
If you wanted to point the DNS to another IP address, for instance, you could have a rule that requires a proposal to be made, and for people to have a chance to vote on it during a voting period, with vote weights being equal or proportional to how much of a token people hold. Votes could be delegated. I wrote about all this on CoinDesk in 2020: https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2020/03/12/in-defense-of-block...
In fact, as more things become decentralized, the need to host a website at a particular IP address will go away, too. All of these Web 2.0 things are too centralized and prone to be rugpulled and changed, and the idea that someone must pay all the hosting costs is stupid, when even in 2004 BitTorrent participants also had to "seed" the same files they were "leeching". The reliability is actually necessary to the MEMBERS of the community who use it every day (exactly who you're talking about), rather than the LEADERS.
You can host static web sites on IPFS, for instance, and use smart contracts on the blockchain for business logic. That's what happens with NFTs, for instance, but that's just a first-generation technology, like the games Space Invaders and Pong.
Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service
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You have to do a lot of mental gymnastics to justify why web3 is not needed. Here you literally argue that one’s brand name recognition is irrelevant, and you can be constantly moving domain names with no impact to your bottom line or your community. That requires more than just an assertion. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
> Here you literally argue that one’s brand name recognition is irrelevant You argued that. I argue the opposite: brand name recognition is what matters. (And believe me, I am not the only one who makes that point and I certainly am not even remotely smart enough to have come up with it first.) A domain name is merely one of the many things that may help you reach that recognition. These things evolve; domain names a…
Obviously the domain is a large part of the brand.
It's like saying "1800 flowers" can rename itself. Or Jacoby and Myers had a phone number that was all 8's. And then when they split up, they got other numbers like 800-800-8000 but it wasn't the same.
People type in the domain name when they think of chess.com or whatever. You're using examples which are the most ubiquitous companies in the world that spend the most on brand recognition. That's not a great way to support your point!
Consider "basecamp.com" or "hey.com" -- would they do just as well if they had to switch every month to basecamp.nl and basecamp.io ? Probably not. And why should they?
Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service
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> Here you literally argue that one’s brand name recognition is irrelevant You argued that. I argue the opposite: brand name recognition is what matters. (And believe me, I am not the only one who makes that point and I certainly am not even remotely smart enough to have come up with it first.) A domain name is merely one of the many things that may help you reach that recognition. These things evolve; domain names a…
Obviously the domain is a large part of the brand. It's like saying "1800 flowers" can rename itself. Or Jacoby and Myers had a phone number that was all 8's. And then when they split up, they got other numbers like 800-800-8000 but it wasn't the same. People type in the domain name when they think of chess.com or whatever. You're using examples which are the most ubiquitous companies in the world that spend the most…
Domain name is completely distinct from public awareness about you. They exist on completely different conceptual levels. It is a key distinction I suspect you are incapable of seeing.
A domain name is one of the means that together can help achieve that awareness and/or deliver your product.
It is like saying an airplane is “a large part of being in New York”. It is useful if you want to fly there, but once you’re there you don’t need it much. You can also drive.
> Consider "basecamp.com" or "hey.com" -- would they do just as well if they had to switch every month to basecamp.nl and basecamp.io ? Probably not.
Again, if you are specifically in the business of subverting the law and expect the world to turn against you and your domain is the main means of delivery then it may be wise for you to do something like this (or simply be a Tor hidden service with the same outcome). For any normal product this does not matter.
Incidentally, public awareness about the pirate bay did not really go down since their domain seizures.
> People type in the domain name
No.
Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service
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Obviously the domain is a large part of the brand. It's like saying "1800 flowers" can rename itself. Or Jacoby and Myers had a phone number that was all 8's. And then when they split up, they got other numbers like 800-800-8000 but it wasn't the same. People type in the domain name when they think of chess.com or whatever. You're using examples which are the most ubiquitous companies in the world that spend the most…
Domain name is completely distinct from public awareness about you. They exist on completely different conceptual levels. It is a key distinction I suspect you are incapable of seeing. A domain name is one of the means that together can help achieve that awareness and/or deliver your product. It is like saying an airplane is “a large part of being in New York”. It is useful if you want to fly there, but once you’re t…
No?
I do and people I know do.
You are way off. What do you think people do exactly?
> Again, if you are specifically in the business of subverting the law and expect the world to turn against you and your domain is the main means of delivery then it may be wise for you to do something like this (or simply be a Tor hidden service with the same outcome). For any normal product this does not matter.
Ah, that old chestnut! Yeah and you don’t really need end-to-end encryption, unless you’re a criminal who doesn’t want the government to find things out. Let them have the certificate so they can solve crimes easier and keep you safe! Same logic.
Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service
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HN's emoji stripper is intentional. some are supported, eg; ↖↙↗↘ but others are not, so we're reduced to using things like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ to communicate
I don't feel like emoji add anything substantial to a textual conversation, it's mostly useless fluff. I don't miss it on HN, so I disagree with your use of "reduced" here. :)
you're entitled to your own opinion, but text lacks tone, and emoji helps bring some of it back so I don't see it as useless fluff
Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service
#97Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
Domain name is completely distinct from public awareness about you. They exist on completely different conceptual levels. It is a key distinction I suspect you are incapable of seeing. A domain name is one of the means that together can help achieve that awareness and/or deliver your product. It is like saying an airplane is “a large part of being in New York”. It is useful if you want to fly there, but once you’re t…
No? I do and people I know do. You are way off. What do you think people do exactly? > Again, if you are specifically in the business of subverting the law and expect the world to turn against you and your domain is the main means of delivery then it may be wise for you to do something like this (or simply be a Tor hidden service with the same outcome). For any normal product this does not matter. Ah, that old chestn…
I type domain names sometimes, but generally I estimate 99% of people tap a link 99%+ of the time.
> Yeah and you don’t really need end-to-end encryption
I didn’t say you don’t need privacy, you are putting words in my mouth.
> Ah, that old chestnut!
The real chestnut are people who think the only way to go is to abolish institutions, grab a piece of land and guard it with shotguns and rocket launchers. A quick thought experiment would show that this is a dead end.
Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service
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Nuance
The opposite of nuance because the image renders differently for different browsers/platforms so you can only assume a very vague meaning.
I agree on the assuming and the vagueness. Kids these days feel that the thumbs up emoji is like a passive aggressive middle finger, same with a green checkbox -- and they are apparently bothered by the ellipsis too while we are at it -- not understanding that it is totally valid punctuation and what it can represent. The fact that these individuals are absolutely wrong comes from the pictograms being vague.
Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service
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No? I do and people I know do. You are way off. What do you think people do exactly? > Again, if you are specifically in the business of subverting the law and expect the world to turn against you and your domain is the main means of delivery then it may be wise for you to do something like this (or simply be a Tor hidden service with the same outcome). For any normal product this does not matter. Ah, that old chestn…
I type domain names sometimes, but generally I estimate 99% of people tap a link 99%+ of the time. > Yeah and you don’t really need end-to-end encryption I didn’t say you don’t need privacy, you are putting words in my mouth. > Ah, that old chestnut! The real chestnut are people who think the only way to go is to abolish institutions, grab a piece of land and guard it with shotguns and rocket launchers. A quick thoug…
Many of the same mindsets and people who deride blockchain as “you dont need it if you are not doing anything bad” are also going to do away with end-to-end encryption under the slogan “you don’t need it if you have nothing to hide”.
After all, it can be used to hide ANYTHING, including 2 billion dollar transfers, tax evasion, money laundering and of course supporting terrorism. At least the blockchain is public! The sentiment you express comes on one side of the freedom/security spectrum.
If you’re arguing in good faith, then you’ll have to think deeply why oppose blockchain but others shouldnt oppose end to end encryption for the same reasons of “nothing to hide”. Even I come down on the side of “if you are reduced to sneaking around, then your society is already in bad shape” and consider end-to-end encryption to be a bandaid that makes people complacent. But the war on end-to-end encryption is actually far more prevalent than that around the world, and far bigger than your silly war on blockchains and mere cryptographic signatures (which governments don’t oppose nearly as much):
https://community.qbix.com/t/the-coming-war-on-end-to-end-en...
Read it! And no, the strawman is that I’m talking about shotguns. I’m talking about open software and protocols eating the world if capitalistic for-profit corporations, just as they disrupted the Big Telcos, and then AOL/MSN etc. So will blockchain be the value layer and IPFS/Autonomi be the storage layer etc. And the Web will be increasingly outdated.