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Londoners see what a scientist looks like up close in 50 photographs

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Re: Londoners see what a scientist looks like up close in 50 photographs

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I'd like to see the resumes of the scientists photographed, so I can be sure they are not actors.

The entire exhibition is online at: https://www.nature.com/immersive/where-i-work-exhibition/ind...

At least they give names and locations.

Re: Londoners see what a scientist looks like up close in 50 photographs

#42

I'd like to see the resumes of the scientists photographed, so I can be sure they are not actors.

The entire exhibition is online at: https://www.nature.com/immersive/where-i-work-exhibition/ind...

and each person featured has a link through to a multi paragraph minibiography that's more than enough to find their linkedin profiles, universities, education, etc .. at least for the random three I looked at.

Re: Londoners see what a scientist looks like up close in 50 photographs

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White doesn't mean anything in Europe. It's very much an American concept that's only valid there. If you subdivide the "white" population in London by their culture, you'll see what I mean. Of course, if you measure diversity by the color of people's skin, then that's different. Otherwise, London might be the most diverse city on Earth, sharing the number one spot with New York.

Americans struggle deeply with their axiom of whiteness. Whiteness in America comes from the unification of caucasians from broad cultural and economic backgrounds against the black slaves that were being raped, tortured and dehumanized systematically over generations. And instead of rectifying the problem by dismantling the concept of whiteness (because it reenforces the power of racial division & hierarchy), it get…

> maybe they’re under represented in these fields in the UK and the government wants to fix that?

Or maybe they're not, and this is a representative sample? Academics move around a lot: seemingly half the faculty at my local university are immigrants, and a good chunk of the graduates become emigrants.

You might be right, but I get unreasonably annoyed when people insist that the existence of women or members of minority groups must be a diversity initiative. The mere existence of people is not a political statement.

Re: Londoners see what a scientist looks like up close in 50 photographs

#46

The exhibition before that was lots of pictures from the moon landing, which was great. They also had a series for pride. It was sponsored by skittles, but sadly not only was the logo in greyscale, but they didn't have the the slogan "taste the rainbow". Its london, You've gotta go all in with humour, or it just looks like pride washing....

The Skittles logo is always greyscale when they sponsor Pride events. I have no idea whether it's pride-washing, but it has more thought put into it than most.

I was being somewhat facetious, it wasn't really pridewashing, as it was a tiny logo.

Re: Londoners see what a scientist looks like up close in 50 photographs

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London has a population over half white, it's not really all that for a large population center.

It is just 53.8% white / white-other which can mean many things: https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/uk-popula... And diversity means more than just white people.

My point is a city of world class diversity doesn't have an obvious simple majority from a single category. My point is not "white people are there" or "London is extremely uniform".

Bringing this back around to the original topic, none in the photos from the article are from the simple majority category. N is small, so that's not necessarily astounding, but the n=50 photo set also follows a similar pattern.

I don't disagree with it, I think it's more than fine to highlight that the modern split is very different than the typical historical split , but it is there and London is perhaps more bland than the photos suggest.

Re: Londoners see what a scientist looks like up close in 50 photographs

#49
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Lets try any possible silly idea, except really improving the work conditions for scientists

Maybe an attempt at improving the public image of scientists by humanism can help accomplish that.

But where is that humanism?

Re: Londoners see what a scientist looks like up close in 50 photographs

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

White doesn't mean anything in Europe. It's very much an American concept that's only valid there. If you subdivide the "white" population in London by their culture, you'll see what I mean. Of course, if you measure diversity by the color of people's skin, then that's different. Otherwise, London might be the most diverse city on Earth, sharing the number one spot with New York.

Americans struggle deeply with their axiom of whiteness. Whiteness in America comes from the unification of caucasians from broad cultural and economic backgrounds against the black slaves that were being raped, tortured and dehumanized systematically over generations. And instead of rectifying the problem by dismantling the concept of whiteness (because it reenforces the power of racial division & hierarchy), it get…

> As for the choice to highlight black and brown people in this project that others in the GP are complaining about.. maybe they’re under represented in these fields in the UK and the government wants to fix that?

This is not the real problem here. Black scientists are perfectly okay.

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