All web browsers on iOS are just Safari with different design

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Post by rrr_oh_man » Sat, Apr 20, 2024, 9:19 PM UTC

All web browsers on iOS are just Safari with different design
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Post by robertlagrant » Sat, Apr 20, 2024, 10:13 PM UTC

Is this true? I thought it was purely the rendering.

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Post by smcleod » Sat, Apr 20, 2024, 10:14 PM UTC

Oh what I’d give for a real Firefox browser on iOS. I see lots of value in preventing chrome based browser from running through as they already dominate and shape the web too much as it is.

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Post by gnicholas » Sat, Apr 20, 2024, 10:15 PM UTC

smcleod wrote: post #3

Oh what I’d give for a real Firefox browser on iOS. I see lots of value in preventing chrome based browser from running through as they already dominate and shape the web too much as it is.

But iOS is WebKit, not chromium. Am I misunderstanding your concern?

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Post by anste » Sat, Apr 20, 2024, 10:16 PM UTC

Sad, but true. Unfortunately, Safari still has some ways to go in terms of feature support. https://ios404.com/ has a great list of stuff that's still missing.

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Post by smcleod » Sat, Apr 20, 2024, 10:17 PM UTC

gnicholas wrote: post #4

smcleod wrote: post #3

Oh what I’d give for a real Firefox browser on iOS. I see lots of value in preventing chrome based browser from running through as they already dominate and shape the web too much as it is.

But iOS is WebKit, not chromium. Am I misunderstanding your concern?

Yes that’s correct. What I’m saying is I don’t think chrome based browsers should come to iOS (brave, chrome)

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Post by weikju » Sat, Apr 20, 2024, 10:18 PM UTC

robertlagrant wrote: post #2

Is this true? I thought it was purely the rendering.

The title/community post are wrong - it's WebKit, not Safari itself. But the intended meaning is true, all browsers on iOS are "skins" on the WebKit engine, no Gecko, Blink, etc.

This still ignores all the differentiation between the browsers on iOS, even if they're all on WebKit. And even as Orion proves, browsers on iOS can support Firefox/Chrome extensions! So WebKit isn't something that prevents that...

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Post by cjpearson » Sat, Apr 20, 2024, 10:19 PM UTC

This statement does seem a little ironic coming from a browser which is Chrome with a different design.

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Post by ryleyrandall22 » Sat, Apr 20, 2024, 10:19 PM UTC

If you want to be even more cynical you could say they are all limited versions of Safari. There are valid security concerns for why Apple does this but I would love more choices as a developer.

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Post by Devasta » Sat, Apr 20, 2024, 10:19 PM UTC

And most browsers on other platforms are just Chrome with different design.