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Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by vertis »

changelink wrote: post #221
vertis wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SSRIs have some nasty side effects though, including sexual dysfunction.

For sure, but so does heavy post-covid. It's a trade-off that's well worth it for her. It improved her memory and brain clarity a fair bit to the point that it's doable to get through the days hoping for a cure (or at least a way to get back to a normal life).

FWIW anxiety also results in exhaustion and brain fog, so I'm not surprised that it's had a positive impact in this way, it's just unfortunate that it's not without it's downsides.

Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by armchairdweller »

pw201 wrote: post #262
armchairdweller wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UK ONS data used to have the obvious flaw that people dropping dead 3 days after their first dose were defined as „unvaccinated“. In this regard, the significant uptick in deaths in summer 2021 in „unvaccinated“ looked interesting to say the least. How are they doing their definitions now? Could not find it. Meanwhile this new Dutch data looks quite interesting, maybe someone here would like to give it a shot: ht…

The ONS data linked the comment you're replying to is clear that it counts "vaccinated" from the day of vaccination. What ONS data are you referring to which "used to have the obvious flaw that people dropping dead 3 days after their first dose were defined as unvaccinated"? > By now there is a hell lot of data pointing at issues with the novel pharmaceutical product. Where?

> Where?

Given previous experience with people who years into this still want to be served everything on a silver plate, entering any discussion with you will be futile. You responded solely for the dompamin your brain gives you when you trample onto people that an "authority" presented you as outsiders to your tribe. No factual argument will convince you.

Even with all the easily verifiable information in this thread alone you did not make the effort to check for yourself, and are so convinced of your position that you aren't even embarrassed about demonstrating your ignorance.

It is incredibly easy to find by now. In mid 2021 you had to search, think about and analyze the excess mortality stats yourself to see the obvious signal, now it's being discussed widely. But you will never start this journey on your own out of fear your will be expelled from your perceived tribe.

Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by mike_hearn »

pw201 wrote: post #278
mike_hearn wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Humpherson simply says that "ONS ... do receive data in [people within two weeks of vaccination], and that the individual would fall into the ‘vaccinated’ category" which is a meaningless tautology, as the entire argument is about the definition of vaccinated used by the public health agencies. Invalid definitions are a very real and pervasive problem, not only being standard in the public health literature but also…

> which is a meaningless tautology, as the entire argument is about the definition of vaccinated used by the public health agencies. The ONS mortality stats linked to by kadkadels at the start of the thread contain data related to people who received at least one COVID vaccine (counted from the day they received it, subdivided by time since reception and number of boosters), as well as an unvaccinated category who ne…

To clarify the claims: The main problem with time windowing is in the effectiveness calculations. That claim isn't specific to England or the ONS, it shows up in many studies and countries.

The main problem with UK-specific death statistics is that they (the ONS) don't know the true size of the denominator.

Regardless of the above, due to widespread intellectual corruption in academia and public health, virtually no data on the topic of COVID or COVID vaccines can be taken at face value.

> Fenton is in HART, and HART are off their collective rockers

Your link says those messages came from a public chat room that literally anyone could sign up for. So Fenton has published things on a website that hosts a chat room where other people said things you disagree with. If that's your best counter to Fenton, and not some issue with his methodologies, then it's safe to assume you concede his points are correct.

Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by eleveriven »

skrebbel wrote: post #18

My wife has postcovid and this is a profound effect. Yesterday she tried to add up a series of numbers by heart, and she simply couldn’t. For context, she’s pretty mathy and used to mock me for taking out a calculator or a spreadsheet for stuff like that. She also forgets everything, which is another thing she used to be great at. It’s pretty confronting, especially now that the idea that maybe this isn’t temporary i…

My memory also suffered after COVID. Additionally, I've noticed that I become tired more quickly after reading books

Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by eleveriven »

vertis wrote: post #120
skrebbel wrote: post #18

My wife has postcovid and this is a profound effect. Yesterday she tried to add up a series of numbers by heart, and she simply couldn’t. For context, she’s pretty mathy and used to mock me for taking out a calculator or a spreadsheet for stuff like that. She also forgets everything, which is another thing she used to be great at. It’s pretty confronting, especially now that the idea that maybe this isn’t temporary i…

I watched my partner have a very bad run in with Epstein-Barr Virus (a decade ago). Wiped her out for months and months. It took years before she was back to 100%. It might not be clear what all the causes of long-covid, brain fog are but it's definitely possible for viruses to have long lasting and poorly studied impacts.

And I think these long-term effects requires ongoing research and attention

Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by pw201 »

armchairdweller wrote: post #282
pw201 wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The ONS data linked the comment you're replying to is clear that it counts "vaccinated" from the day of vaccination. What ONS data are you referring to which "used to have the obvious flaw that people dropping dead 3 days after their first dose were defined as unvaccinated"? > By now there is a hell lot of data pointing at issues with the novel pharmaceutical product. Where?

> Where? Given previous experience with people who years into this still want to be served everything on a silver plate, entering any discussion with you will be futile. You responded solely for the dompamin your brain gives you when you trample onto people that an "authority" presented you as outsiders to your tribe. No factual argument will convince you. Even with all the easily verifiable information in this threa…

This technique is called "SHOUT HERE, ARGUMENT WEAK".

> easily verifiable information in this thread

As others have pointed out, none of the information you've posted in this thread supports the conclusion you think it does. You questioned whether the ONS mortality data linked to by kadkadels had a problem you say ONS data used to have. It did not, as it was easy to see by clicking through the link. You haven't been able to produce any ONS data which ever had this problem, which is strange.

You then linked to some Dutch data which, when translated, concludes that "Based on these results, there is no population-level evidence that COVID-19 vaccination increases the risk of death due to an adverse reaction."

You did not check either of these links yourself, so it's a bit rich to criticise others for failing to do so.

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