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This is your third nearly identical post in this thread. Is it so important to you that people don't find value in something you think isn't notable?
> While it did have some recreational value, it did not provide a product that people could use that would enrich their lives. Because providing a 'product' is the sole criterion for success? The author is missing the point and doesn't understand TempleOS.
One thing that makes TempleOS less approachable is the extreme idiosyncrasy of some of its design decisions - e.g. limiting it to 640x480 with 16 colours even though supporting higher resolution and colour depth would have been little extra work, an intentionally very garish user interface, refusing to implement any networking support for ideological reasons. It was never going to be a mainstream OS, but it might hav…
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This is your third nearly identical post in this thread. Is it so important to you that people don't find value in something you think isn't notable?
I’m not them, but parroting something without having any substance behind it is how myths are born.
Or how will it help stop the spread of the myth? It won't change anyone's mind, that's for sure.
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I'll just note that while Terry loved the word, he didn't ever really seem to use it as a racist slur, except by coincidence. He just directed it at anyone and anything he didn't like.
People also use extremely offensive language (including racial slurs, but not limited to them) under drugs, alcohol etc. because the words are extreme and nothing else. Using a racial slur does not necessarily make one a racist.
I grew up with a diverse group of friends, we used every slur under the sun to shit talk eachother and still do when being idiots. Those slurs have no meaning to us beyond the comedic value they provide in their vulgarity. I'd be shocked to discover any of us were racist, pretty strange to have not noticed after >20 years.
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I agree. What I like about TempleOS is that Terry wasn't afraid to make something new and unique, even though it was completely incompatible with everything else. DolDoc is such a cool idea. Not a unique one, but you don't find many operating systems which have a shell based on that. Since the command output is in DolDoc, you can type `DIR` at the command line and get a list which expands into the whole file tree whe…
You're right, it's not real mode. I think I should have said ring zero.
I think this also touches on the other thing that makes TempleOS cool. It was designed as a modern C64, and a lot of the weird design decisions come directly from that. It's a hacker's operating system and it shows.
I seem to remember seeing a different take on hackable operating systems, something written in Scheme with a PreScheme core I think? I remember thinking it was pretty cool. The dynamic nature of Scheme allowed you to have access to pretty much anything you want, but also run programs with less privileges.
Of course there's also DuskOS. It's written in Forth which I like, but I'm not the biggest fan of their dialect. I'd like to attempt something in a more classical Forth, but I never get to it. One of these days...
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The question is why more people have not done it. A bit like picassos answer to someone saying to him about his art "I could have done that!!" being "why haven't you?" I would put templeos at the same level as art in that it's the creation and life rather than the craft or utility. Or in other words there is something transcendental about the project which would go beyond (but not technically) something a competent s…
> The question is why more people have not done it. What practical value does it bring outside of 15 minute awe from internet nerds? No sarcasm.
That’s how art works. And computers are confined to Solving Business Problems and Delivering Value To Shareholders. What a boring existence that’d be. On an unrelated note, I don’t live in Silicon Valley.
I had the pleasure of interacting with him in the form of creating a GIMP plugin for his custom image file format.
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Then why is it frequently shared and discussed etc.? That is, frequently noted.
Because internet loves mystery and hype? Ask your colleagues if they heard about, and if they heard about it what is noticeable about it. Majority of internet see “Ooh, that’s not Linux, Windows, Mac and has a lot of custom things written from scratch”. And also funni racist genius schizo.
Not to trivialise his achievement, but I'd be willing to wager any moderately competent systems programmer, if given 10+ years and no other commitments (work or family) could write a programming language, compiler, and real mode operating system for an x86_64 system. Side note, why were Ticketmaster hiring systems programmers writing such low level code? I grew up in the 90s/00s so missed this era of computing.
One of my first jobs as a junior programmer in the 80's was to build a multimedia engine that would boot both on CGA and EGA (and then, later, VGA) systems, was not allowed to use any MS-DOS calls (BIOS and pure assembly only) and it had to run the same bytecode scripts for the programs being made with the engine, seemlessly. It had a compiler for the script, a bytecode interpreter and VM, and different HAL's dependi…
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I’m not them, but parroting something without having any substance behind it is how myths are born.
How is replying with just "no, it wasn't" without any elaboration better? Or how will it help stop the spread of the myth? It won't change anyone's mind, that's for sure.