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Re: Google scraps minimum wage, benefits rules for suppliers and staffing firms

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Post by reify »

Here in the UK the minimum wage act was introduced in 1998.

It was sold to the public as a way to stop employers abusing employees by under paying them and to prevent slave wages.

Constantly stating the so called "sweat shops" (the clothing manufacturing factories) in the north of England employing foreign and illegal workers and paying them a poultry £2 per hour.

What really happened was this:

Early on it was quite clear that the act was developed for the benefit of employers to reduce their overall wage budget and not to help employees by paying them more.

Large companies started to get rid of staff who were being paid a decent liveable wage only to re-employ new staff on the minimum wage. Early retirement was another way to get swathes of people out and employ more and more people on mimimum wages.

Right across the board from building site workers to Airline staff. No job was safe.

Minimum wage!

We as a company will pay you the minimum wage which is preset through our intensive lobbying of government to continue with our vast profits for shareholders.

In the Oxford dictionary the word "Employ" means "to use".

Re: Google scraps minimum wage, benefits rules for suppliers and staffing firms

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Post by MrDresden »

reify wrote: post #21

Here in the UK the minimum wage act was introduced in 1998. It was sold to the public as a way to stop employers abusing employees by under paying them and to prevent slave wages. Constantly stating the so called "sweat shops" (the clothing manufacturing factories) in the north of England employing foreign and illegal workers and paying them a poultry £2 per hour. What really happened was this: Early on it was quite…

There is nothing wrong with minimum wage regulations, but they aren't enough on their own.

What is also needed are strong unions that fight on behalf of the workers to make sure wages are higher than the minimum (plus everything else that unions do for workers).

Re: Google scraps minimum wage, benefits rules for suppliers and staffing firms

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Post by exe34 »

defrost wrote: post #20
blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you should state your ideas more clearly. Are you saying there is an equivalence between Germany in WW2 and Israel? If not, what’s the point of your comment?

It's your rhetorical reflected back, perhaps you should state your absolute position on the sanctity of business more clearly. Why would infomation systems for tracking tattoos on not-Aryans in work and death camps be a problem? Why would developing and selling Zyklon-B be a problem? By your comment above, and I quote: "Why would taking on paying customers be a problem? It shows they are running a business". Do you t…

Has Israel been tattooing people? Has Israel been developing Zyklon-B? I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

Re: Google scraps minimum wage, benefits rules for suppliers and staffing firms

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Post by dgrin91 »

reify wrote: post #21

Here in the UK the minimum wage act was introduced in 1998. It was sold to the public as a way to stop employers abusing employees by under paying them and to prevent slave wages. Constantly stating the so called "sweat shops" (the clothing manufacturing factories) in the north of England employing foreign and illegal workers and paying them a poultry £2 per hour. What really happened was this: Early on it was quite…

This makes no sense? If employers could replace high paid workers with minimum wage on-mass after minimum wage law then why didn't they just replace them with even cheaper workers before minimum wage law?

Re: Google scraps minimum wage, benefits rules for suppliers and staffing firms

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Post by youngtaff »

reify wrote: post #21

Here in the UK the minimum wage act was introduced in 1998. It was sold to the public as a way to stop employers abusing employees by under paying them and to prevent slave wages. Constantly stating the so called "sweat shops" (the clothing manufacturing factories) in the north of England employing foreign and illegal workers and paying them a poultry £2 per hour. What really happened was this: Early on it was quite…

Nice theory but where is your evidence?

The reality is that the minimum wage has hugely boosted incomes for the least well off - https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/mar/27/minimum-wage...

And the real issue is that wages have stagnated since the 2008 financial crisis with many people receiving below inflation pay rises e.g. medical staff being 35% worse off in real terms - https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/mar/20/uuk-workers...

Some companies pay more that the minimum wage as they’re competing for staff e.g. supermarkets, and the more people are paid the lower in work benefits will cost

Re: Google scraps minimum wage, benefits rules for suppliers and staffing firms

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Post by intexpress »

exe34 wrote: post #23
defrost wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's your rhetorical reflected back, perhaps you should state your absolute position on the sanctity of business more clearly. Why would infomation systems for tracking tattoos on not-Aryans in work and death camps be a problem? Why would developing and selling Zyklon-B be a problem? By your comment above, and I quote: "Why would taking on paying customers be a problem? It shows they are running a business". Do you t…

Has Israel been tattooing people? Has Israel been developing Zyklon-B? I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

I'm just reading up on this now. Sounds like Israel killed 13,000 children? Seems pretty bad.

Re: Google scraps minimum wage, benefits rules for suppliers and staffing firms

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Post by zizii »

intexpress wrote: post #26
exe34 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has Israel been tattooing people? Has Israel been developing Zyklon-B? I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

I'm just reading up on this now. Sounds like Israel killed 13,000 children? Seems pretty bad.

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Re: Google scraps minimum wage, benefits rules for suppliers and staffing firms

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Post by intexpress »

zizii wrote: post #27
intexpress wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm just reading up on this now. Sounds like Israel killed 13,000 children? Seems pretty bad.

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For the sake of argument, let's assume that Hamas uses children as human shields

Does that make it okay for Israel to kill 13,000 children... ?

Sure, I can understand Israel accidentally killing 1 or 2 children. Maybe even accidentally killing 10 children.

But 13,000 ?

It is hard to comprehend accidentally killing 13,000 children.

Re: Google scraps minimum wage, benefits rules for suppliers and staffing firms

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Post by zizii »

intexpress wrote: post #28
zizii wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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For the sake of argument, let's assume that Hamas uses children as human shields Does that make it okay for Israel to kill 13,000 children... ? Sure, I can understand Israel accidentally killing 1 or 2 children. Maybe even accidentally killing 10 children. But 13,000 ? It is hard to comprehend accidentally killing 13,000 children.

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Re: Google scraps minimum wage, benefits rules for suppliers and staffing firms

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Post by intexpress »

zizii wrote: post #29
intexpress wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the sake of argument, let's assume that Hamas uses children as human shields Does that make it okay for Israel to kill 13,000 children... ? Sure, I can understand Israel accidentally killing 1 or 2 children. Maybe even accidentally killing 10 children. But 13,000 ? It is hard to comprehend accidentally killing 13,000 children.

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Not according to the United Nations and the BBC

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68625406

"The United Nations children's agency, Unicef, says 13,000 children in Gaza have been killed by Israel since the war began"

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