imho waste of engineering time…
Come on, this is the kind of project that could be done by an intern in a day or two. Not much of a waste and it's nice to be able to access models without login or history.
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I just don't want to search the web. I have questions and I want answers- searching the web is an intermediate step, not the end solution. I have Question X and the answer isn't to surface "Blog Post Y"... it's the content of Blog Post Y I need, and only the subset of the content that answers my question, perhaps synthesized with the content of 5 other blog posts, a couple scientific papers and a recent press release…
Sometimes, often, I really just want to search the web. I just want to see what's out there! I have some vague ideas that I am trying to make more coherent and give sharper edges too, and I'm exploring the space those ideas fit into to see what others have done with them. Often I don't have a specific question in mind, and trying to frame my query as a coherent question will be limiting. As another poster commented,…
Arguably Google has been taking your agency away and predicting your intent for the last decade at a minimum. The only difference here seems to be that you’re noticing it.
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#143I stopped using DDG right after they forced "Explore our features" to be enabled all the time.
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sometimes, often, I really just want to search the web. I just want to see what's out there! I have some vague ideas that I am trying to make more coherent and give sharper edges too, and I'm exploring the space those ideas fit into to see what others have done with them. Often I don't have a specific question in mind, and trying to frame my query as a coherent question will be limiting. As another poster commented,…
Arguably Google has been taking your agency away and predicting your intent for the last decade at a minimum. The only difference here seems to be that you’re noticing it.
This is why I don't use Google since a long time ago.
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#145Who, exactly, wanted to ask a search engine questions that would be answered by bullshit? I quote: what is the stoichiometric ratio between 2NO2 and N2O4 The stoichiometric ratio between nitrogen dioxide (NO2) and dinitrogen tetroxide (N2O4) is 1:1. This means that for every one molecule of nitrogen dioxide (NO2) that reacts, one molecule of dinitrogen tetroxide (N2O4) is formed. The equilibrium reaction between nitr…
It also happily fails the "Name 5 countries starting and ending with the same letter " test, with 0/5 using Claude..
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#147God damn it people. I just want to search the web. You aren't doing anything meaningful by giving me yet another fuzzy robot question machine. Just let me search the web. Queries in, web pages out.
I'm quite a fan of how Kagi does it: they'll only give you back AI answers if you end your query with a question mark. For when I'm looking for a fact, it's very helpful and never gets in the way.
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#148God damn it people. I just want to search the web. You aren't doing anything meaningful by giving me yet another fuzzy robot question machine. Just let me search the web. Queries in, web pages out.
A lot of the time you aren't searching for "web pages". You are searching for answers, to get to which you'd have to dig through piles of web pages for an hour. Technology already exists to give you a direct answer in 95% of the time (with references), it just results in fewer ads shown to you, so search engines aren't interested in integrating it properly.
There is an inverse relation between sites with ads, and sites that contain useful information that require time to look through. Open access journals, StackExchange, product support messageboards....none of these have ads.
In fact, it's the sites peddling trivial BS that are chock to the brim with ads.
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This you-know-better-than-me mindset is why all technology is converging to garbage. I can't speak for OP, but for me, you are half correct: I am indeed ultimately searching for answers, but I want the piles of web pages for an hour, and that is how I will find my answer. I don't like it when systems remove my agency by believing they can correctly predict my intent. (They can't.)
But there is no agency being removed here. You are being given more options by adding a button to chat if you so desire. It’s very small and unobtrusive
Take a look at a Google results page from 2009 and then from 2012 onwards. "Unobtrusive" is clearly a matter of opinion.
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> is this substantively different from how search queries are handled when DuckDuckGo forwards them to Bing? No, it is the exact same business model but applied to AI chat instead of search.
In other words, a lot of fuss about nothing.
Well it's a big deal to me. OpenAI have not conducted themselves in a way that makes me want to share my search intents with them, and I don't care if they or DDG tell me that what I tell them "won't be used to train AI models".