I was expecting something where the AI chat could run DDG web searches. If it's just a mirror of GPT 3.5/Claude, why do I need DDG to be involved?
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#12I didn't know Claude until I saw it as an option for DDG chat model. What caught my attention was the tagline "instant". Interesting. I decided to give it a try with expectations to see answers coming up almost instantly. And they really did. I'm enjoying it so far.
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#13Pretty cool! I use Brave Search ( https://search.brave.com ) and it too got AI results a few months ago. They're quite helpful!
I’m glad they gave an option to turn it off for people who don’t care about AI.
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#14I was expecting something where the AI chat could run DDG web searches. If it's just a mirror of GPT 3.5/Claude, why do I need DDG to be involved?
>Additionally, all metadata that contains personal information (for example, your IP address) is obfuscated from underlying model providers (for example, OpenAI, Anthropic).
They are acting as a proxy to increase privacy, which is pretty much their entire business model.
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#15"Welcome to DuckDuckGo AI Chat! This chat session is powered by OpenAI’s GPT-3.5 Turbo. All of your chats here are private, and are never stored by DuckDuckGo or used to train AI models." Wait, they are sent to OpenAI but they are also "private"? What am I missing here?
>Additionally, all metadata that contains personal information (for example, your IP address) is obfuscated from underlying model providers (for example, OpenAI, Anthropic).
>In addition, we have agreements in place with all model providers that further limit how they can use data from these anonymous requests that includes not using Prompts and Outputs to develop or improve their models as well as deleting all information received within 30 days.
That is what they mean by private.
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#16"Welcome to DuckDuckGo AI Chat! This chat session is powered by OpenAI’s GPT-3.5 Turbo. All of your chats here are private, and are never stored by DuckDuckGo or used to train AI models." Wait, they are sent to OpenAI but they are also "private"? What am I missing here?
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#17"Welcome to DuckDuckGo AI Chat! This chat session is powered by OpenAI’s GPT-3.5 Turbo. All of your chats here are private, and are never stored by DuckDuckGo or used to train AI models." Wait, they are sent to OpenAI but they are also "private"? What am I missing here?
I guess they mean that the chat conversations are not persisted in a DDG database. A bit misleading IMO
The messaging could be more clear, but is this substantively different from how search queries are handled when DuckDuckGo forwards them to Bing? Bing doesn’t know who made the search but could log the query itself.
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#18Test query:
Buy bulk pvc in cheyenne, wy
FastGPT from kagi recommends national chains, a local plumbing supply store or two, and a specific facebook market page. All of these have hyperlinks.
DDG just gives generic advice about national chains.
I think the difference is that Kagi built a RAG model out of a web crawl.
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#19It would be best for DDG to sell before they are steamrolled from multiple fronts.
Who would buy it? It seems like the kind of thing where they would lose all the people who use it if they sold to just about anyone who could buy it.
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#20Being DDG, with its reputation, I’m sure these chats really are never saved - but the wording in the sidebar: never saved by us, and not used to train AI models could make the more paranoid believe that they could be saved by DDG’s partners - from very directly (Anthropic saves chats with Claude) to indirectly (all channeled through a shady arms-length subsidiary).
See https://duckduckgo.com/aichat/privacy-terms
"We do not save or store your Prompts or Outputs.
Additionally, all metadata that contains personal information (for example, your IP address) is obfuscated from underlying model providers (for example, OpenAI, Anthropic).
If you submit personal information in your Prompts, it may be reproduced in the Outputs, but no one can tell whether it was you personally submitting the Prompts or someone else.
We have agreements with model providers to further protect your privacy.
As noted above, we call model providers on your behalf so your personal information (for example, IP address) is not exposed to them. In addition, we have agreements in place with all model providers that further limit how they can use data from these anonymous requests that includes not using Prompts and Outputs to develop or improve their models as well as deleting all information received within 30 days."