what I find to be the hardest part of this discussion is that the people who are most righteous and opinionated about technology like this aren’t the same people whose sons and daughters would be in the cockpits or on the battlefields as the alternative.
US Air Force says AI-controlled F-16 has been dogfighting with humans
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#22I don't like this.
While I understand the purpose of HN is to have meaningful and in-depth discussion, and simply stating an opinion doesn't really contribute much, this is something which is so obviously bad and gives such a visceral reaction that the negative opinion outshines anything else I could say about it.
I don't like this.
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#23Need a quote from the pilot flying the other plane.
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#24A drone f16 might make more sensible bombing decisions given recent events.
I’m open to it.
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#25I don't like this. While I understand the purpose of HN is to have meaningful and in-depth discussion, and simply stating an opinion doesn't really contribute much, this is something which is so obviously bad and gives such a visceral reaction that the negative opinion outshines anything else I could say about it. I don't like this.
> this is something which is so obviously bad
You’d prefer we be shooting down people instead of robots downing robots? Insurgents don’t field fighters.
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#26There's an inflection point where technology accrues too much power to a ruling class, such that no amount of unrest or revolution is able reset the social order. I believe China has already passed this point. Their culture and individual behavior is tightly controlled (e.g., you can't use public bathrooms if your social score is too low). AI may be the catalyst for western countries.
look at the upside, we may be able to eliminate school shootings when the AI-powered turrets are installed in every classroom.
Nah, they'll just hack those remotely instead. :( :( :(
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#27There's an inflection point where technology accrues too much power to a ruling class, such that no amount of unrest or revolution is able reset the social order. I believe China has already passed this point. Their culture and individual behavior is tightly controlled (e.g., you can't use public bathrooms if your social score is too low). AI may be the catalyst for western countries.
If anything I’m surprised to see the ruling class isn’t starting to lose this battle to the masses. Ukraine’s use of disposable drones plainly shows how easy it is to create smart weapons that could be piloted autonomously (or at least in the “terminal” phase).
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#28There's an inflection point where technology accrues too much power to a ruling class, such that no amount of unrest or revolution is able reset the social order. I believe China has already passed this point. Their culture and individual behavior is tightly controlled (e.g., you can't use public bathrooms if your social score is too low). AI may be the catalyst for western countries.
It was the Internet. Not because the powerful gained more power, because all possible revolutionaries became opiated.
> It was the Internet. Not because the powerful gained more power, because all possible revolutionaries became opiated
Is the claim that the frequency of revolutions scales inversely with internet penetration? Because this is trivially testable and obviously false. (Ukraine and Tunisia off the top of my head.)
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#29what I find to be the hardest part of this discussion is that the people who are most righteous and opinionated about technology like this aren’t the same people whose sons and daughters would be in the cockpits or on the battlefields as the alternative.
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#30Once saw a terrible movie that started with a similar premise. I dislike giving any machine the agency to decide when to choose to kill. I feel like that way lies danger. I feel that laundering the burden of death through a machine distasteful.
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