About a fifth of the economic activity in the USA is brainwashing. And quite a bit of other activity, such as most consumer internet services, exist to facilitate this brainwashing.
(Tongue in cheek reference to marketing/advertising.)
A brief, weird history of brainwashing
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#22Peter Schweizer's great book Blood Money goes into the current state of the art with TikTok (and a bunch of other stuff).
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just to be clear, what you claim is actually two things: - advertising is ~1/5th of US economy (backed with facts) - all advertising is brainwashing (your personal opinion)
That's the entire point, right? Pay money to an ad agency and they will affect the thoughts of your target demographic. Maybe its benign brainwashing, or you'd choose a different word because brainwashing has a lot of connotations. But that is factually what it's trying to do
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just to be clear, what you claim is actually two things: - advertising is ~1/5th of US economy (backed with facts) - all advertising is brainwashing (your personal opinion)
That's the entire point, right? Pay money to an ad agency and they will affect the thoughts of your target demographic. Maybe its benign brainwashing, or you'd choose a different word because brainwashing has a lot of connotations. But that is factually what it's trying to do
Re: A brief, weird history of brainwashing
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just to be clear, what you claim is actually two things: - advertising is ~1/5th of US economy (backed with facts) - all advertising is brainwashing (your personal opinion)
That's the entire point, right? Pay money to an ad agency and they will affect the thoughts of your target demographic. Maybe its benign brainwashing, or you'd choose a different word because brainwashing has a lot of connotations. But that is factually what it's trying to do
Re: A brief, weird history of brainwashing
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's the entire point, right? Pay money to an ad agency and they will affect the thoughts of your target demographic. Maybe its benign brainwashing, or you'd choose a different word because brainwashing has a lot of connotations. But that is factually what it's trying to do
That's also factually what you're trying to do right now, and what I'm trying to do back at you, but maybe we should call it "communicating" in this instance. Because brainwashing has a lot of connotations. That don't apply. You see.
advertising is non-consensual, almost everyone would rather not see ads and not internalize its ideas
advertising is precise and scientific, it is done by powerful groups at large scale
and truthfully, if this comment was part of an astroturfing campaign by an agency if have no problem calling it a brainwashing attempt. or call it something else, its all semantics. murder if you're mad, loss of life if you're not sort of thing
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's the entire point, right? Pay money to an ad agency and they will affect the thoughts of your target demographic. Maybe its benign brainwashing, or you'd choose a different word because brainwashing has a lot of connotations. But that is factually what it's trying to do
This loosens the definition of the word "brainwashing" so much that the term becomes meaningless.
brainwashing - noun
1. a forcible indoctrination to induce someone to give up basic political, social, or religious beliefs and attitudes and to accept contrasting regimented ideas
2. persuasion by propaganda or salesmanshipRe: A brief, weird history of brainwashing
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just to be clear, what you claim is actually two things: - advertising is ~1/5th of US economy (backed with facts) - all advertising is brainwashing (your personal opinion)
I find this dictionary definition quite fitting: "2. any method of controlled systematic indoctrination, especially one based on repetition or confusion" https://www.dictionary.com/browse/brainwashing
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's the entire point, right? Pay money to an ad agency and they will affect the thoughts of your target demographic. Maybe its benign brainwashing, or you'd choose a different word because brainwashing has a lot of connotations. But that is factually what it's trying to do
This loosens the definition of the word "brainwashing" so much that the term becomes meaningless.
Re: A brief, weird history of brainwashing
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's also factually what you're trying to do right now, and what I'm trying to do back at you, but maybe we should call it "communicating" in this instance. Because brainwashing has a lot of connotations. That don't apply. You see.
fine- here's two more ways it fits: advertising is non-consensual, almost everyone would rather not see ads and not internalize its ideas advertising is precise and scientific, it is done by powerful groups at large scale and truthfully, if this comment was part of an astroturfing campaign by an agency if have no problem calling it a brainwashing attempt. or call it something else, its all semantics. murder if you're…