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Goldene: A single atom layer of gold

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Re: Goldene: A single atom layer of gold

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I mean, matter is mostly empty space…

Only if you really distort the definitions. The "empty space" you are thinking about is the matter. You can't just put other stuff there. There's a similar wrong meme about how you never really "touch" anything.

> There's a similar wrong meme about how you never really "touch" anything.

Ok, what is the exact moment you touch something? How close do the atoms need to be?

Re: Goldene: A single atom layer of gold

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only if you really distort the definitions. The "empty space" you are thinking about is the matter. You can't just put other stuff there. There's a similar wrong meme about how you never really "touch" anything.

> There's a similar wrong meme about how you never really "touch" anything. Ok, what is the exact moment you touch something? How close do the atoms need to be?

When weak interaction starts happening.

Re: Goldene: A single atom layer of gold

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I would suspect it is essentially invisible to the naked eye. It likely only exists in extremely specific conditions, not just like a sheet. I’m guessing it’s somewhat similar to a microscopic layer around a material that we never notice.

Thin gold layers are green, this looks red if you look at the beaker. There are spectral data available in the original publication https://www.nature.com/articles/s44160-024-00518-4

If I am reading that right, the beaker is filled with lots of sheets and clumps of sheets not just a single one. So, it’s not clear what if anything a single sheet would look like.

Re: Goldene: A single atom layer of gold

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Oversimplified TLDR: They put rolled gold into a Prussian Red solution, waited a couple of months and then rinsed it in Palmolive solution? It is possible they did not obtain the Prussian Red in the good old way of cooking blood and bones with potash but ordered it from the Internet: https://www.morphisto.de/en/shop/detail/d/KIT%3A_Ätzmittel_n... On a more serious note, it is surprisingly easy to create mono- molecul…

Reminds me of this Tom Scott video https://youtu.be/t60EfnqZKrQ?si=1NfOtkw10GZwE25Z

Re: Goldene: A single atom layer of gold

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Graphite is a pretty common word, and it's easy to make the connection between that and what graphene is. Same goes for gold and goldene. Not so much for chrysos and chrysene.

The point of systematic naming is predictability through consistency, not appealing to the lowest common denominator. But Sweden isn’t exactly known for its stellar educational system, so it doesn’t surprise me that their chemists don’t learn Greek.

Ancient Greece wasn't known for its great chemical industry.

Re: Goldene: A single atom layer of gold

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would suspect it is essentially invisible to the naked eye. It likely only exists in extremely specific conditions, not just like a sheet. I’m guessing it’s somewhat similar to a microscopic layer around a material that we never notice.

Thin gold layers are green, this looks red if you look at the beaker. There are spectral data available in the original publication https://www.nature.com/articles/s44160-024-00518-4

I think gold reflects red light, so it lets greenish light through if you use it as a filter.

Re: Goldene: A single atom layer of gold

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post #71

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> There's a similar wrong meme about how you never really "touch" anything. Ok, what is the exact moment you touch something? How close do the atoms need to be?

When weak interaction starts happening.

When does the weak interaction stop happening?

Re: Goldene: A single atom layer of gold

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only if you really distort the definitions. The "empty space" you are thinking about is the matter. You can't just put other stuff there. There's a similar wrong meme about how you never really "touch" anything.

> There's a similar wrong meme about how you never really "touch" anything. Ok, what is the exact moment you touch something? How close do the atoms need to be?

How about this: two objects are touching when the interaction forces between the objects are of similar magnitude to the interatomic forces within the objects. Very generally speaking, this will happen when the distance between the objects is about the same as the distance between atoms within the objects.
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