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Jon Stewart on AI: It's replacing us in the workforce now

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Re: Jon Stewart on AI: It's replacing us in the workforce now

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Post by pixl97 »

musicale wrote: post #49
subjectsigma wrote: post #5

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> Working for living is a problem to be solved. I strongly, viscerally disagree with this. People (mostly) need to feel like they are capable agents and also like they are contributing to something larger than themselves. I’ve seen friends struggle to get a job and find their place in the world; sitting alone at home and watching TV for weeks straight is an inhuman way to exist, and that’s where a lot of people will…

> sitting alone at home and watching TV for weeks straight is an inhuman way to exist, and that’s where a lot of people will end up without work Wall•E predicted a world of rich, fat humans amusing and eating themselves to death. It got the rich part wrong.

I think you forgot about the other part of Wall-e.... where everyone left on the planet after the ship departed died a horrible death in a cloud of pollution.

The people on the ship where the 1%ers.

Re: Jon Stewart on AI: It's replacing us in the workforce now

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Post by pixl97 »

rayiner wrote: post #56
Shawnj2 wrote: post #52

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So now everyone except business people will be lower middle class

Everyone will be middle class again. The present societal consternation is coming from the gap between the middle class and the upper middle class. The middle class Virginia town where I grew up isn’t unaffordable for regular people because of Jeff Bezos. It’s because the town is now full of Google employees and lawyers. And soaring education costs are the result of an arm’s race trying to get into the upper middle c…

This is just a terrible take...

Those property prices are not going down any significant amount. The capital system in the US has realized it can buy up as much property as possible and use it to extract as much wealth as possible via literal rent seeking. Places that are not close to anywhere have had rent prices explode. Oh, and if there is a massive 2008 like housing crash, the banks themselves will hold on to the properties keeping prices high. Meanwhile the Bezeo's themselves that have the AI will be buying up as many real assets as possible.

Re: Jon Stewart on AI: It's replacing us in the workforce now

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Post by rayiner »

pixl97 wrote: post #62
rayiner wrote: post #56

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Everyone will be middle class again. The present societal consternation is coming from the gap between the middle class and the upper middle class. The middle class Virginia town where I grew up isn’t unaffordable for regular people because of Jeff Bezos. It’s because the town is now full of Google employees and lawyers. And soaring education costs are the result of an arm’s race trying to get into the upper middle c…

This is just a terrible take... Those property prices are not going down any significant amount. The capital system in the US has realized it can buy up as much property as possible and use it to extract as much wealth as possible via literal rent seeking. Places that are not close to anywhere have had rent prices explode. Oh, and if there is a massive 2008 like housing crash, the banks themselves will hold on to the…

> Those property prices are not going down any significant amount. The capital system in the US has realized it can buy up as much property as possible and use it to extract as much wealth as possible via literal rent seeking. Places that are not close to anywhere have had rent prices explode.

It's an unflattering take for many egos, but it's what's actually happening. It's not the "capital system" that's bidding up the price of housing. Only a fraction of housing is owned by investors, and only a fraction of those investors are large investors like "banks." The figure for "investor-owned" properties includes individuals who own rental properties--many of whom are the "minor rich" created by the knowledge industry. (Not Bezos, but his project managers and engineering managers.)

You could ban large corporations from buying investment properties, but it wouldn't address the basic problem resulting from the fact that you have 20% of the population engaged in knowledge work whose incomes are vastly outstripping those of the middle 60%. That's why normal people have been pushed out of places like the Bay Area.

Re: Jon Stewart on AI: It's replacing us in the workforce now

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Post by luckman212 »

gentleman11 wrote: post #54
mechagodzilla wrote: post #28

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We find ourselves, in 2024, with unemployment levels (at least in the US) at near all-time lows. This is after centuries of mechanization and automation, decades of the computer and internet revolutions (which have barely any steam left, compared to the previuous ~70 years of rapid improvement), and with a global demographic shift that will actually require significant productivity improvements (as in "more output pe…

Yeah. A lot of people I know even have 2-3 jobs! Even combined, they don’t pay well enough to build retirement savings. It’s easy to find work when you’re being paid less than minimum wage as a contractor at 2-3 companies

There's always OnlyFans.

Wait, what's that you say? AI can make hyper-realistic porn now too?

We're doomed.

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