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Reddit is taking over Google

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Re: Reddit is taking over Google

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I've said this before and I'll say it again. As companies realize how much people like reddit as a trusted source of information, they will learn how to optimize reddit. Then it will slowly degrade just like google has.

Companies realised that a few years ago, we're well past the point where Reddit started to degrade.

I personally love using site:reddit.com when I'm searching on google. I also find myself using tiktok to search for stuff more

Re: Reddit is taking over Google

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Who are you proposing pays for content moderation then? Reddit clearly can’t afford it

Allow each reader to have his own moderation. Basically, I want to be able to enforce 3 rules: 1. There are people I want to read always. 2. There are people I want to read never. 3. I want some random sample from all other people, in proportion from 1:1 to 1:1000, depending on my current mood. The server should keep my list and serve me text according to it. Also it should allow readers to exchange such lists. If I…

Here's a very similar concept fleshed out in more detail.

https://getaether.net/docs/faq/voting_and_elections/

Re: Reddit is taking over Google

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It's mind-boggling to me that Google didn't create a spec to work with special partners whereby they could get syndicated data in a format that was easy to ingest, and easy for their partners to produce. Lighting dollars on fire just to serve up pages to Googlebot, when you could just periodically dump a journal of updates to Google, is just crazy imo. On edit: if only there were some way to do some kind of really si…

Also, isn't this illegal? Either Google respected rate limits (which I doubt) or it was a form of a DDoS attack.

Google is the kingmaker and basically a monopoly on search. If you're going to light up dollars to share with a bot, let it be with google, who on a lucky day might decide you are king (because you let them index your site) I would presume and assume google obeys the robots.txt mandate as well.

But I would agree it's a very outstanding and real problem that is YC-worthy - sharing structured webpage data with trusted partners in a generic and efficient way. I've heard about various AI companies that perform such data scraping and structuring with AI, forget the name - this is many notches in sophistication above a Selenium-headless type driver. If only html were made into a model-view-controller neatly and users were let to bring their own views & controllers.

Re: Reddit is taking over Google

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The way I describe Reddit to people is that you have zero clue if you’re arguing with a 13 year old who discovered $x concept this week. (Or a bot) If you move through the site with that understanding - and personally, using the old interface - it can still be bearable. I’m not the biggest fan of the company itself these days and I hold out hope that something else can take off, but I’ve not been impressed so far.

I have a theory that reddit was pretty decent when it first started because the majority of the site users were at least university or college students/age. Nowadays the average age is high school, and probably trending to grade school These are the people who are influencing the Google search user at large now. We’re fucked

You also have no idea what country a user is in

Re: Reddit is taking over Google

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People say things like this, but the subs I frequent largely seem fine. I'm sure there are bad actors somewhere in there, but they don't seem prominent to me. > every single parenting/mom sub is inundated by formula companies. Okay, if it's every single one, show me all the formula company inundation in r/daddit. Should be easy if they're absolutely everywhere, like you say, right?

I felt that way until the other day. There was a post that got upvoted, seemed wholesome and innocuous, and then eventually someone pointed out it was borrowing material from an earlier post. So I go to check, and sure enough, the pattern of posts by the parent poster is very inhuman, to put it one way. Strings of reposts of the same thing to many many subs in a short period of time, over and over and over again. I w…

Here's an example of a bot account that has an outsized influence on niche political subreddits:

https://old.reddit.com/user/nimobo

Re: Reddit is taking over Google

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I hate reddit because the way close threads for topics that need an update or a follow up. The auto closing seems pointless Further, People keep telling me the communities are great but I've yet to find one of these mythical great communities. Or maybe my definition of great community is different than others. For me a great community was a forum I was on in 2004-5 where people stuck around and actually responded. on…

Auto closing is a sub-by-sub decision.

That is a semi recent change (last few years). It was universal before.

Re: Reddit is taking over Google

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I still prefer reddit most of the time. Front page (default) subs are highly manipulated (especially anything news, politics, current things etc.) but for hobbies, video games, and sports it's still the best site. Video game discusssions especially because unlike Discord every tip, guide, and walkthrough is archived and searchable. And for sports mostly because it's _insane_ how quickly you get highlights and videos.…

> I can't ready my city's sub Interestingly, my (smaller) city's sub has quite a cozy community. There are sometimes lively debates, and we do have a few complete idiots hanging around, but for the most part, it is a pleasant place to be. My county's main sub (r/Canada) on the other hand, is mostly moderated by foreigners with far-right connections. Yesterday's budget announcement was initially greeted by a flurry of…

Then there is /r/canada_sub who’s sole purpose appears to be to be worse than /r/canada, and /r/onguardforthee which is probably the least bad Canada wide subreddit.

Re: Reddit is taking over Google

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It's mind-boggling to me that Google didn't create a spec to work with special partners whereby they could get syndicated data in a format that was easy to ingest, and easy for their partners to produce. Lighting dollars on fire just to serve up pages to Googlebot, when you could just periodically dump a journal of updates to Google, is just crazy imo. On edit: if only there were some way to do some kind of really si…

In the past Google just requested the HTML, and didn't bother with the javascript, so it was a simple document request. People started serving up pages that required Javascript to show content, so they had cope with that. I'm sure it's dramatically more expensive for them as well.

As long as it’s prohibitively expensive for their competition, I’m sure they don’t mind.

Re: Reddit is taking over Google

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The problem is you can't trust it: people can modify that part of the URL arbitrarily and so you think the URL has meaning, but it doesn't.

It depends how it is implemented. After extracting the ID and looking up the post you can then check that the "slug" matches. Return a 404 if it doesn't. This may add a bit of complexity (if the slug data is mutable you need to allow any past versions or freeze it in creation) but isn't too hard if this is the approach that you want to take.

Ok, but we don't have to talk about this "depends" idea: that's not how reddit did it and I thought we were talking about reddit ;P.

Re: Reddit is taking over Google

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Funny, just to be a contrarian I'm blocking Reddit by default because the site is infested with dark patterns and the overconfident. It's been a long time since the average person on Reddit knew more than me about the things I'm interested in.

I find myself reading more Wordpress blogs nowadays of all things, and while I read through a lot of self-promoters and blogspam, the friction of running your own site tends to select for people who demonstrate a minimum of thoughtfulness and effort and maturity. Only big social media I'm still on is YouTube.

People look at Reddit search results on Google in no small part because Google is not a good search engine. It honestly has regressed to Altavista quality. Reddit is better than looking at Pinterest and Quora and AI generated SEO spam but that doesn't mean it's good, it's getting worse every year and its crossed a threshold for me where I feel using the site makes me stupider.

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