Live data from Hacker News

CFPB Takes Action Against Coding Boot Camp BloomTech and CEO Austen Allred

consumerfinance.gov

101–110 of 384 posts

Re: CFPB Takes Action Against Coding Boot Camp BloomTech and CEO Austen Allred

#101
post #59

pg in 2019: > Lambda School will go on growing and transform education. Few will remember having been part of the jeering mob. https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Apaulg%20lambda&src=typed...

VCs would improve their public image if they took the occasional L.

Re: CFPB Takes Action Against Coding Boot Camp BloomTech and CEO Austen Allred

#102
post #66

I attended Lambda when it was first starting out. I think I was in the third or fourth cohort. At the time, the sell was that you didn't have to pay anything unless you got a job using the skills you learned from them. I was pretty naïve, I guess. Things seemed fine in the beginning. The instructors were good, and I liked that there were actual live classes. Things degraded very quickly. They kept changing the format…

This is pretty messed up - I liked the idea of incentive aligned ISAs (and actually teaching a skill that universities mostly don't), but it still requires someone of good character making decisions ultimately.

Re: CFPB Takes Action Against Coding Boot Camp BloomTech and CEO Austen Allred

#103

Am I crazy, or do fines never come close to matching damages? Or jailtime? I'm constantly seeing rulings or indictments where an article says "defendant faces $1500 in fines or two years jail time", as if those are in any way equivalent. Were all the fine quantities written up in 1875 and just never got updated? In this case, defendants are accused of conning "at least 11,000 income share loans" "carrying an average…

Generally, yes fines are a fraction of damages; fines are meant to deter, and are paid to a regulator not the damaged party. Payout from a lawsuit is meant to capture damages, and pay to the damaged party directly. In this case, the 'stick' is that CFPB is preventing the company from issuing new loans, de facto forcing them to cease operation. (Or I guess charge regular tuition, like a normal school?) That's a pretty…

Forcing somebody to cease committing a specific form of fraud is a "big deal"?

Re: CFPB Takes Action Against Coding Boot Camp BloomTech and CEO Austen Allred

#104

Am I crazy, or do fines never come close to matching damages? Or jailtime? I'm constantly seeing rulings or indictments where an article says "defendant faces $1500 in fines or two years jail time", as if those are in any way equivalent. Were all the fine quantities written up in 1875 and just never got updated? In this case, defendants are accused of conning "at least 11,000 income share loans" "carrying an average…

Generally, yes fines are a fraction of damages; fines are meant to deter, and are paid to a regulator not the damaged party. Payout from a lawsuit is meant to capture damages, and pay to the damaged party directly. In this case, the 'stick' is that CFPB is preventing the company from issuing new loans, de facto forcing them to cease operation. (Or I guess charge regular tuition, like a normal school?) That's a pretty…

According to The Verge [0] "None of this puts BloomTech out of business, by the way — it can keep operating with third-party loans instead."

And to make matters even more depressing the CEO just tweeted [1] that it's no biggie for him:

> BloomTech continues to focus on its core mission: improving the lives of students and enabling them to fulfill their economic potential. While it’s been frustrating, we’re glad to put this behind us.

[0] https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/17/24133577/lambda-school-bl...

[1] https://twitter.com/Austen/status/1780770303406403701

Re: CFPB Takes Action Against Coding Boot Camp BloomTech and CEO Austen Allred

#105
post #59

pg in 2019: > Lambda School will go on growing and transform education. Few will remember having been part of the jeering mob. https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Apaulg%20lambda&src=typed...

In January 2020, as news broke about Lambda School's scummy behavior, Graham gave Austen a pep talk which he later expanded into the essay, "Haters." It has aged like a fine milk. https://paulgraham.com/fh.html

The more we see the legacy of PG’s various protégés and “thought leadership” out in the world the more I start to think Jessica Livingston might have been responsible for much more of YC’s successful trajectory than people realized at the time.

Re: CFPB Takes Action Against Coding Boot Camp BloomTech and CEO Austen Allred

#106
> Allred tweeted that the school achieved a 100 percent job-placement rate in one of its cohorts, and later acknowledged in a private message that the sample size was just one student.

A master of deception with statistics!

Re: CFPB Takes Action Against Coding Boot Camp BloomTech and CEO Austen Allred

#107
post #59

pg in 2019: > Lambda School will go on growing and transform education. Few will remember having been part of the jeering mob. https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Apaulg%20lambda&src=typed...

VCs would improve their public image if they took the occasional L.

I thought the idea behind lambda was good I was a lot more surprised by PG's strong support for Mighty which seemed a lot more bizarre. Though his recent tweets wrt Israel have been the most disappointing for me.

Re: CFPB Takes Action Against Coding Boot Camp BloomTech and CEO Austen Allred

#108
https://twitter.com/Austen/status/1573859253797810176

Honestly, there’s nothing really that screams dishonesty than this tweet. Saying that your outcomes are stronger than ever when every tech company was laying off and headcount was frozen just doesn’t pass the smell test.

Re: CFPB Takes Action Against Coding Boot Camp BloomTech and CEO Austen Allred

#109
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I attended Launch School and found the founder and the program to be of high quality and integrity and the success of the capstone graduates speaks for itself.

Is this a quote from somewhere? (Or maybe just an errant > symbol?) Just wondering if it's your own experience or I missed something

Sorry errant >. It was based on my own experience. Launch School has a unique model where it's $200/month for the core curriculum which you complete at your own pace, and then can complete an optional capstone curriculum/project which comes with an ISA (18K or 18% of first year salary). Their outcomes are great, the curriculum is top-notch, and the founder always conducted himself with integrity and transparency. I had a great experience.

Re: CFPB Takes Action Against Coding Boot Camp BloomTech and CEO Austen Allred

#110
post #91
post #59

pg in 2019: > Lambda School will go on growing and transform education. Few will remember having been part of the jeering mob. https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Apaulg%20lambda&src=typed...

now do coinbase!

What's wrong with coinbase?
Post reply on HN