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Psychiatric risks for worsened mental health after psychedelic use

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Re: Psychiatric risks for worsened mental health after psychedelic use

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Reminder. Psychedelics can also lead to extremely traumatic experiences: https://www.reddit.com/r/DMT/comments/gb9ar0/dark_dmt_trip_r... This doesn’t get mentioned in the current “psychedelics as a cure-all” hype wave.

Can't scary movies as well?

Re: Psychiatric risks for worsened mental health after psychedelic use

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An illusive broken firmware it is. Better stay sober. Also when learning new things being sober is better. You wont get your phd using drugs. You wont get your brains to a new state using drugs. You maybe think you do, but thats a illusional defect of your brains when using drugs. Stay sober.

Douglas Engelbart - inspired by LSD to invent computer mouse Steve Jobs stated LSD was “one of the two or three most important things I ever did in my life” Francis Crick saw the double helix of DNA on LSD Kary Banks Mullis, the biochemist who won the 1993 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for his improvements to the polymerase chain reaction technique: “It [LSD] was certainly much more important than any courses I ever took.…

Your examples are exceptions and are certainly not a justification. Drugs are destroying lives of a lot of people who otherwise could have good lifes.

Re: Psychiatric risks for worsened mental health after psychedelic use

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An illusive broken firmware it is. Better stay sober. Also when learning new things being sober is better. You wont get your phd using drugs. You wont get your brains to a new state using drugs. You maybe think you do, but thats a illusional defect of your brains when using drugs. Stay sober.

Douglas Engelbart - inspired by LSD to invent computer mouse Steve Jobs stated LSD was “one of the two or three most important things I ever did in my life” Francis Crick saw the double helix of DNA on LSD Kary Banks Mullis, the biochemist who won the 1993 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for his improvements to the polymerase chain reaction technique: “It [LSD] was certainly much more important than any courses I ever took.…

That Francis Crick was under the influence of LSD when he discovered the double helix structure of DNA is a widely circulated myth, but I've seen no evidence for it. In “Francis Crick: Discoverer of the Genetic Code,” Matt Ridley clarifies that while Crick did experiment with LSD, it was not until several years after the discovery of the DNA structure. The discovery itself was a result of rigorous scientific research based on experimental results, including the X-ray crystallography of Rosalind Franklin.

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Reminder. Psychedelics can also lead to extremely traumatic experiences: https://www.reddit.com/r/DMT/comments/gb9ar0/dark_dmt_trip_r... This doesn’t get mentioned in the current “psychedelics as a cure-all” hype wave.

from the post > and out of pure immaturity and desire to breakthrough I packed 100mg into the bowl. https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/DMT says heavy dosage is 60mg+. > This doesn’t get mentioned in the current “psychedelics as a cure-all” hype wave. No. You forgot to mention 100mg is way above heavy dosage.

Thats not how DMT works.

Re: Psychiatric risks for worsened mental health after psychedelic use

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I'm an extreme materialist, I don't believe in gods or spirits or anything of the sort. I don't even believe in the magic some people call "free will". I first tried LSD about 10 years ago and have taken various forms of psychedelics once or twice a year since. Some of them were, without a doubt, the most profound experiences of my life. You're right about the vague transcendentalist nonsense. The problem is there ar…

As a materialist, do you believe in laws of physics?

I believe they're our current best approximation to how the universe behaves based on our empirical observations.

Re: Psychiatric risks for worsened mental health after psychedelic use

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As a materialist, do you believe in laws of physics?

I believe they're our current best approximation to how the universe behaves based on our empirical observations.

But that the universe behaves according to some laws?

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I believe they're our current best approximation to how the universe behaves based on our empirical observations.

But that the universe behaves according to some laws?

I don't know.

The universe does not know or care about our laws and they are incomplete.

For example, we have no idea how consciousness works, so at this point we stop at "I don't know", rather than inventing explanations.

I don't know if consciousness is computable -- I suspect it isn't.

If it is not computable then we cannot come up with laws to explain it.

Or maybe the whole universe is computable but its kolmogorov complexity is larger than its information capacity.

Re: Psychiatric risks for worsened mental health after psychedelic use

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But that the universe behaves according to some laws?

I don't know. The universe does not know or care about our laws and they are incomplete. For example, we have no idea how consciousness works, so at this point we stop at "I don't know", rather than inventing explanations. I don't know if consciousness is computable -- I suspect it isn't. If it is not computable then we cannot come up with laws to explain it. Or maybe the whole universe is computable but its kolmogor…

I believe we know, based on any definition of knowing - I.e. assuming we can know anything at all, and realizing that any definitions of knowing are all circular to an extent, that the electron follows some laws.

I agree that the universe doesn't care how we approximate these laws, but only that they clearly exist.

If these laws exist, they are certainly not material, unless you redefine material, and that is why I am no longer a materialist :)

Re: Psychiatric risks for worsened mental health after psychedelic use

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I don't know. The universe does not know or care about our laws and they are incomplete. For example, we have no idea how consciousness works, so at this point we stop at "I don't know", rather than inventing explanations. I don't know if consciousness is computable -- I suspect it isn't. If it is not computable then we cannot come up with laws to explain it. Or maybe the whole universe is computable but its kolmogor…

I believe we know, based on any definition of knowing - I.e. assuming we can know anything at all, and realizing that any definitions of knowing are all circular to an extent, that the electron follows some laws. I agree that the universe doesn't care how we approximate these laws, but only that they clearly exist. If these laws exist, they are certainly not material, unless you redefine material, and that is why I a…

You're technically correct (the best kind of correct)!

However, I don't think any materialist would deny laws of physics exist. We might say that how materials interact with each other is an intrinsic property of material itself, just as an electron behaves as though it has a certain mass.

What definition of material would you use that separates it from its laws?

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