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Re: Mixtral 8x22B

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post #27

Does anyone have a good layman's explanation of the "Mixture-of-Experts" concept? I think I understand the idea of having "sub-experts", but how do you decide what each specialization is during training? Or is that not how it works at all?

As always, code is the best documentation: https://github.com/ggerganov/llama.cpp/blob/8dd1ec8b3ffbfa2d...

Re: Mixtral 8x22B

#112

These LLMs are making RAM great again. Wish I had invested in the extra 32GB for my mac laptop.

You can't upgrade it? Edit: I haven't owned a laptop for years, probably could have surmised they'd be more user hostile nowadays.

You are getting downvoted because you vaguely suggested something negative about an Apple product, as is my comment below

Re: Mixtral 8x22B

#114
So this one is 3x the size but only 7% better on MMLU? Given Moores law is mostly dead, this trend is going to make for even more extremely expensive compute for next gen AI models.

Re: Mixtral 8x22B

#115
post #91

What's the best way to run this on my Macbook Pro? I've tried LMStudio, but I'm not a fan of the interface compared to OpenAI's. The lack of automatic regeneration every time I edit my input, like on ChatGPT, is quite frustrating. I also gave Ollama a shot, but using the CLI is less convenient. Ideally, I'd like something that allows me to edit my settings quite granularly, similar to what I can do in OpenLM, with th…

Ollama with WebUI https://github.com/open-webui/open-webui

Not sure why your comment was downvoted. ^ is absolutely the right answer.

Open WebUI is functionally identical to the ChatGPT interface. You can even use it with the OpenAI APIs to have your own pay per use GPT 4. I did this.

Re: Mixtral 8x22B

#116
post #33

I'm considering switching my function calling requests from OpenAI's API to Mistral. Are they using similar formats? What's the easiest way to use Mistral? Is it by using Huggingface?

easiest is probably with ollama [0]. I think the ollama API is OpenAI compatible. [0] https://ollama.com/

Ollama runs locally. What's the best option for calling the new Mixtral model on someone else's server programmatically?

Re: Mixtral 8x22B

#117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't upgrade it? Edit: I haven't owned a laptop for years, probably could have surmised they'd be more user hostile nowadays.

Everything is soldered in these days. It's complete garbage. And most of the other vendors just copy Apple so even things like Lenovo have the same problems. The current state of laptops is such trash

These days with Apple Silicon, RAM is a part of the SoC. It's not even soldered on, it's a part of the chip. Although TBF, they also offer insane memory bandwidths.

Re: Mixtral 8x22B

#118
post #23
post #14

"64K tokens context window" I do wish they had managed to extend it to at least 128K to match the capabilities of GPT-4 Turbo Maybe this limit will become a joke when looking back? Can you imagine reaching a trillion tokens context window in the future, as Sam speculated on Lex's podcast?

maybe we'll look back at token context windows like we look back at how much ram we have in a system.

While there is a lot more HBM (or UMA if you're a Mac system) you need to run these LLM models, my overarching point is that at this point most systems don't have RAM constraints for most of the software you need to run and as a result, RAM becomes less of a selling point except in very specialized instances like graphic design or 3D rendering work.

If we have cheap billion token context windows, 99% of your use cases aren't going to hit anywhere close to that limit and as a result, your models will "just run"

Re: Mixtral 8x22B

#119

First test I tried to run a random taxation question through it Output: https://gist.github.com/IAmStoxe/7fb224225ff13b1902b6d172467... Within the first paragraph, it outputs: > GET AN ESSAY WRITTEN FOR YOU FROM AS LOW AS $13/PAGE Thought that was hilarious.

That's not the model this post is about. You used the base model, not trained for tasks. (The instruct model is probably not on ollama yet.)
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