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Scammers are targeting teenage boys on social media and driving some to suicide

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Re: Scammers are targeting teenage boys on social media and driving some to suicide

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Some thoughts I've had for years: A. My understanding is an underage teen who takes a nude selfie and sends it can be charged with distributing "child porn." This is a serious problem and should not be true. If other people forward it, they should be charged, but a teenager should not get in legal trouble for making a nude selfie and sending it privately. B. We need to culturally get over a lot of our hangups about c…

For me the craziness already starts with equating nudity and pornography...

Re: Scammers are targeting teenage boys on social media and driving some to suicide

#122

Why would Facebook not just block messages from Nigeria to rando North American towns at this point? Shouldn't the network analysis required to detect this sort of crime ring be a slam-dunk at this point? I don't get how this is still even possible.

My parents' home phone used to receive several scam calls a week from India. There was no way to stop them short of giving up the landline, which is what I did. I can't believe phone companies (in the UK) don't provide better protection, even a registry of whitelisted numbers, that could be set for the old/vulnerable.

They do

https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/cordless-phones/article/how-...

Re: Scammers are targeting teenage boys on social media and driving some to suicide

#123

This could all be solved if the OS vendors would add a 'share my childs screen' function to their operating systems. These incidents happen in isolation - make it possible for an adult to actually .. you know .. have oversight over their childrens online activities and it would be less dangerous.

It would also be solved if care takers wouldn't let a child do stuff unsupervised on the internet.

Or if a care taker educated a child about dangers on the internet.

Do you really think care takers would watch their kids screens remotely all the time and then such horrific events wouldn't happen? I think it wouldn't help at all if that feature existed

Re: Scammers are targeting teenage boys on social media and driving some to suicide

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, maybe it’s time to consider that. Saying “oh well, let’s give up on laws because the internet is worldwide and unlimited” doesn’t feel like a good choice to me.

Shutting down all the roads because criminals use them doesn't really make sense. Does the internet equivalent?

We have very strong checks on people using roads to cross borders.

I suspect that the same will eventually apply to IP traffic crossing borders. Big companies like google, netflix, meta etc will be approved by default, but anything else will be blocked.

Re: Scammers are targeting teenage boys on social media and driving some to suicide

#125

Why would Facebook not just block messages from Nigeria to rando North American towns at this point? Shouldn't the network analysis required to detect this sort of crime ring be a slam-dunk at this point? I don't get how this is still even possible.

Why shouldn't people in Nigeria be able to communicate with people from random North American towns?

Because there are some criminals in a geographical area you want to exclude the whole area? Why don't you demand a US-only internet instead?

Re: Scammers are targeting teenage boys on social media and driving some to suicide

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post #34

I don't understand what would motivate someone to ever send an explicit photo of themselves to a stranger. The whole premise of this scam makes no sense. Like, is this not the most basic of the basics of online safety?

The basic rule of online safety is not to meet people from the internet IRL and even if, never to get into their cars. And yet, the business of calling strangers over the internet specifically to get into their cars somehow grew into a 200 billion dollar industry. Strange world, isn't it.

Because there is a corporate third party that can identify both the driver and the customer. Moreso the driver than the customer, but then again the driver can have cameras in the vehicle and doesn't carry cash like a taxi does, so they are not in any significant danger either.

Re: Scammers are targeting teenage boys on social media and driving some to suicide

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post #108

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This is going to make this kind of racket more common, and also provide some kind of defence if it goes wrong: "they're fakes" will be more believable. But it takes some serious mental resilience to contemplate that as a teenager when someone is threatening to send your nudes to the people you love. Not many kids are going to have that kind of intestinal fortitude. The tendency of porn to give men severe anxiety abou…

> kids are more embarrassed/ashamed about their bodies because all the other penises they've seen are so huge. And this is the problem. In years past kids would be naked with other kids, when changing after gym for example. Nowadays the only penis a boy sees is his own and that of porn people, because we've made normal nude situations extremely rare, especially outside of the context of sex.

Don't childen shower together anymore after gym classes?

Re: Scammers are targeting teenage boys on social media and driving some to suicide

#128

In this day and age, if you fall for something like that, just refuse to pay and say you'll tell people it's an AI fake. I think the days of this sort of scam being very effective are over, or will be soon.

I was a teenager a long time ago, but I remember the anxiety and shame about my body that was involved in puberty. It's a really, really brave teenager that's going to be able to front up with naked photos sent to his parents and friends and say "they're fake". And, of course, if they're not fake and one person finds out, everyone will know soon enough. This kind of stuff is what teenage drama is made of. From the ar…

> How is an AI going to know the exact pattern of pyjamas he wore?

Claim the AI saw a picture of your pyjamas? But ye, people are bad at lying. It would be enough to claim they don't know how the AI made the picture.

Re: Scammers are targeting teenage boys on social media and driving some to suicide

#129

This could all be solved if the OS vendors would add a 'share my childs screen' function to their operating systems. These incidents happen in isolation - make it possible for an adult to actually .. you know .. have oversight over their childrens online activities and it would be less dangerous.

It would also be solved if care takers wouldn't let a child do stuff unsupervised on the internet. Or if a care taker educated a child about dangers on the internet. Do you really think care takers would watch their kids screens remotely all the time and then such horrific events wouldn't happen? I think it wouldn't help at all if that feature existed

As a parent of two teenage boys, I would definitely prefer to be able to occasionally tune into whats going on with my kids screens. Definitely.

And, I would definitely have caught things sooner if I'd had that ability. (Disclaimer: yes, we have been victims of these kinds of scams.)

Re: Scammers are targeting teenage boys on social media and driving some to suicide

#130
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meta was correct. "Exigent circumstances" to the 4th amendment warrant requirement did not apply, because there was no known potential victim at risk. So the cops needed to have a judge sign a warrant. Didn't take long.

Legally correct maybe, but morally?

If its not worth getting a judge out of bed, it's not an emergency.
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