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Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by fxtentacle » Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 8:13 AM UTC

throwaway48476 wrote: post #113

jl6 wrote: post #35

The title is misleading, at least on the IQ claim. The underlying study was observational and did not claim causation. Medical journals and their associated media summaries are awash with low-certainty studies that get de-nuanced and overhyped. These studies are relatively easy to do - not to denigrate the work put in by the original study authors (it’s not their fault the press sensationalize their work). But for st…

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That must be why everyone in Japan is an idiot ;P They've been wearing masks on the daily commute since long before Covid. /s

Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by piva00 » Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 8:13 AM UTC

skrebbel wrote: post #18

My wife has postcovid and this is a profound effect. Yesterday she tried to add up a series of numbers by heart, and she simply couldn’t. For context, she’s pretty mathy and used to mock me for taking out a calculator or a spreadsheet for stuff like that. She also forgets everything, which is another thing she used to be great at. It’s pretty confronting, especially now that the idea that maybe this isn’t temporary i…

I got infected with COVID twice, thankfully only after being vaccinated and didn't experience heavy physical effects but the cognitive issues I had on my first infection triggered a really bad anxiety.

At some point I was playing chess with my girlfriend after 4-5 days from getting symptoms, after 3 moves (so pretty much still in the beginning of the openings) my brain simply could not understand what I was trying to do, like I couldn't connect a previous thought to the next, there was an impassable barrier between these thoughts that I couldn't get through.

It got worse when I realised I had no idea what I was doing and while looking at the board I couldn't remember how the pieces moved, I looked at my bishop on the board and couldn't think where it could go. I started to cry, my whole job is to think things through, connect diverging thoughts, I got extremely scared I was going to lose this basic ability that enables me to do my job...

I lost the senses of smell and taste for about 10 days so definitely had neurological issues from COVID, the feeling of not being able to think properly was the worse of the feelings. The fever was ok, never broke too high and it was short-lived for about a couple of hours, feeling my heart was not comfortable but bearable and I wouldn't get too tired.

I'm so glad it was temporary, and so sorry for your wife having this lingering on her, I do not wish it to anyone.

Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by mnw21cam » Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 8:14 AM UTC

skrebbel wrote: post #98

jeffhuys wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has she been vaccinated? How many times?

Yes. The symptoms started the day after her 3rd jab. Basically she got that “woa i got jabbed yesterday and feel like shit” thing many people got, but then it just never went away. She got covid 1.5 months after that jab so there’s no telling whether the jab or the covid was the key cause to her long-time postcovid. The covid infection itself wasn’t particularly heavy. We very much want to stay out of the “covid vacc…

I had four covid vaccines with no trouble whatsoever, but after catching covid for real, I was hospitalised for a night, slowly recovered, and then a few months later got the fatigue and brain fog. Now, 2 years later, I have recovered my physical fitness, but the brain fog remains.

Different people respond to the vaccines and the real thing differently. But this is an anecdatum saying the vaccines were fine.

Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by negamax » Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 8:14 AM UTC

The cognitive decline can also be attributed to extreme isolation that everyone was subjected to. My super enriched, flow like heavenly water life came to a complete standstill. All future plans and timelines thrown in disarray. Covid has ended but my life trajectory has completely changed

Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by fragmede » Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 8:16 AM UTC

prmoustache wrote: post #128

bratbag wrote: post #82

I had similar symptoms. In my case it was just a vitimin D deficiency caused by working from home. I don't doubt some people have suffered neurological damage, but I wouldn't be surprised if many are suffering the same as I was.

Are you working in the cellar at home? Why would you have less vitamin D working from home than say, an office?

Even just 15 mins in the sun helps vitamin D levels so walking from the house to the car into the office and back again is enough to make a difference compared to not going out at all, no?

Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by kadkadels » Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 8:17 AM UTC

armchairdweller wrote: post #117

kadkadels wrote: post #107

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Well, in that case, good that Australia isn't the only country in the world: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsde... which clearly shows that all-cause deaths in England were higher among the unvaccinated. Here is a Reuters fact check: https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/no-evidence-link-uk-exces...

The UK ONS data used to have the obvious flaw that people dropping dead 3 days after their first dose were defined as „unvaccinated“. In this regard, the significant uptick in deaths in summer 2021 in „unvaccinated“ looked interesting to say the least. How are they doing their definitions now? Could not find it. Meanwhile this new Dutch data looks quite interesting, maybe someone here would like to give it a shot: ht…

Rule number 1: don't argue with conspiracy theorists, they will come up with all sorts of nonsense.

>„Fact checkers“ have been shown again and again to be politically biased up to active manipulation. Only people who always agree with the politics they want to push have not noticed at this point.

Have they? Show me some of those manipulated fact checkers, please. With reputable sources, I'm not inclined to read bullshit.

>By now there is a hell lot of data pointing at issues with the novel pharmaceutical product.

Not really, no. Or show us some data.

>Meanwhile this new Dutch data looks quite interesting, maybe someone here would like to give it a shot:

conveniently only available in dutch, but online translators to the rescue:

>https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/longread/rapportages/2022/sterfte-e...

where the first paragraph in 6.4 translates as follows:

>The analyses show a lower or comparable likelihood of dying from causes other than COVID-19 in the first weeks after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine, compared to the vaccination status before receiving the respective dose. This holds true for all age groups and also for long-term care users. Based on these results, there is no population-level evidence that COVID-19 vaccination increases the risk of death due to an adverse reaction.

Oops. Well, you tried.

Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by t0bia_s » Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 8:18 AM UTC

kadkadels wrote: post #107

logicchains wrote: post #94

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Australia's excess death rate is still higher than pre-covid: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-20/mortality-rates-austr... . If the Australian government released the data it'd be trivial to identify whether these deaths were concentrated in the vaccinated or the unvaccinated, but so far it hasn't released such data (if it even possesses such data in aggregate format).

Well, in that case, good that Australia isn't the only country in the world: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsde... which clearly shows that all-cause deaths in England were higher among the unvaccinated. Here is a Reuters fact check: https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/no-evidence-link-uk-exces...

Im not sure how anyone could still belive in factcheckers that claims previously that vaccination gives immunity to virus or that there are no side effects from vaccination even though we have plenty studies that monitor it quite precisely.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39772059

Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 8:20 AM UTC

t0bia_s wrote: post #139

defrost wrote: post #77

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Australia has a population of 26 million, longer life expectancy than the USofA, and comprehensive medical records going back many decades. With ~98% of the population COVID vaccinated multiple times any vaccine effects would stick out like dogs balls. If anyone wants to posit "vaccines cause { stupid | strokes | etc }" Then such correlations should be readily apparent in the before | after records of 26 million test…

Mortality of productive population 15-44 still rising after 2021 in EU. https://euromomo.eu

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Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by vincvinc » Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 8:26 AM UTC

skrebbel wrote: post #58

underdeserver wrote: post #50

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How long ago was she sick? For me it's gotten better. I got sick in August 2021, the major effects (fatigue and brain fog) were most pronounced between September and February, and I've been steadily improving since. I think I'm somewhere around 80% pre-Covid capacity most days.

Woa this is a great thing to hear actually. She got sick January 2022 so a bit over 2 years now. Our current fear is that this is the kind of thing where either you recover within ~2 years or it’s forever. Appreciate your story and will share with her. Her other symptoms, particularly the fatigue, do seem to improve (though the weather and being about to be outside impacts it a lot, so she had a huge setback 2 winter…

I am in 3 years post-covid. Definitely saw some lows but have been recovering steadily. Definitely look into Hyperbaric Oxygen Treatment for this, for me it helped fight the plateau.

Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by smallstepforman » Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 8:26 AM UTC

defrost wrote: post #77

jeffhuys wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has she been vaccinated? How many times?

Australia has a population of 26 million, longer life expectancy than the USofA, and comprehensive medical records going back many decades. With ~98% of the population COVID vaccinated multiple times any vaccine effects would stick out like dogs balls. If anyone wants to posit "vaccines cause { stupid | strokes | etc }" Then such correlations should be readily apparent in the before | after records of 26 million test…

Dont believe the 98% vax rate nonsense, in my circle of friends (including 4 doctors, 3 nurses) most got fake certificates. Dont be suprised that a bulk of the medical profession also did the same. I’m disappointed these professionals with very smart people just decided to bypass the mandates in order to keep their jobs instead of taking a firm stand for the benefit of society. Thats humanity for you.

Lots of people navigate through the cracks. The least you can do (as an individual) is acknowledge the corrupt system and stop spreading the 98% stat which is purely propaganda. And hold the politicians accountable.