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Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by alliao »

helsinkiandrew wrote: post #93
henrikschroder wrote: post #8

If this is true, you should expect results to be the same across countries, and the measurable drops in IQ should correlate to infection rates. Five bucks says you won't find that.

If you accept "cognitive impairment" as a drop in IQ, then this meta study seems to find that globally after infection, and I claim my $5: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34973396/ > A significant proportion of individuals experience persistent fatigue and/or cognitive impairment following resolution of acute COVID-19. > Ten studies analyzed data from Italy, nine from Spain, eight from the US, seven from China, six f…

good save. The impairment is quite apparent from what I've observed and I suspect this is even harder to accept in work context; no one wants to admit they're impaired if you work in knowledge economy where IQ is seen as somewhat correlated to your performance career wise.

Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by solumunus »

sorwin wrote: post #97

> There are studies that have been done comparing people who had COVID-19, versus people who didn't, and then gave them cognitive testing to measure their ability to cognitively process information and test their IQ. And there's very clear differences in the IQ of people who had been infected with COVID-19 versus people who did not. Even mild COVID can give people about a three-point loss of IQ. Hasn't pretty much th…

The people reporting not to have been infected would have had extremely mild, non symptomatic infections, such that they didn’t notice them. I assume the symptoms are what cause the long term damage.

Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by kadkadels »

sph wrote: post #71
dijit wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have to take an IQ test as part of an ADHD diagnosis. I genuinely don't know why, but you do have to.

I got diagnosed for ADHD in 2021 and nobody asked me to do an IQ test. In fact, no one has ever asked me to do one in my entire life. Your anecdote is not data. Also makes no sense whatsoever as ADHD does not affect IQ in any form. It's a form of dopamine dysregulation, not a learning disability. Let's stop perpetuating this stupid myth.

It does affect concentration and if an IQ test goes on for long enough and is not interesting enough to warrant some kind of hyperfocus, I get distracted. And so my IQ score will be worse. Or not? I have ADHD and it doesn't make me dumber, but since focus is a critical part of thinking, it does make it harder if I'm not interested. I'd rather say that IQ tests are designed for neurotypical people.

Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by concordDance »

danielheath wrote: post #27
henrikschroder wrote: post #8

If this is true, you should expect results to be the same across countries, and the measurable drops in IQ should correlate to infection rates. Five bucks says you won't find that.

It's almost impossible to compare IQ tests across countries, because cognition test results are really only valid for people from the cultural context the test was written for.

> cognition test results are really only valid for people from the cultural context the test was written for.

They're perfectly good for looking at changes over time within a population, you just have to be careful doing between-population comparisons (whether a test is "valid" at that point depends what specific question you want to answer).

Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by danparsonson »

prmoustache wrote: post #128
bratbag wrote: post #82

I had similar symptoms. In my case it was just a vitimin D deficiency caused by working from home. I don't doubt some people have suffered neurological damage, but I wouldn't be surprised if many are suffering the same as I was.

Are you working in the cellar at home? Why would you have less vitamin D working from home than say, an office?

Unless you're teleporting or living there, getting from home to the office normally involves at least some exposure to sunlight.

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Post by mirekrusin »

max_ wrote: post #26
leovingi wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maintaining a high level of civilization

So when civilizations collapse like a Ancient Egyptian, Rome, Ancient China & Ancient Greece. What it the IQ that also dropped to cause the civilization collapse?

They probably got covid.

Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by abdullahkhalids »

resonious wrote: post #40
danielheath wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's almost impossible to compare IQ tests across countries, because cognition test results are really only valid for people from the cultural context the test was written for.

If true, this seems quite damning for IQ as a metric. If the kilogram varied across countries, we would be in big trouble.

The mere assumption that something as multidimensional as intelligence can be quantified along a single axis is already highly suspect. How can you compare the mental abilities of Einstein and Bach and Shakespeare and Magnus Carlesen and Zidane?

Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by t0bia_s »

defrost wrote: post #77
jeffhuys wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has she been vaccinated? How many times?

Australia has a population of 26 million, longer life expectancy than the USofA, and comprehensive medical records going back many decades. With ~98% of the population COVID vaccinated multiple times any vaccine effects would stick out like dogs balls. If anyone wants to posit "vaccines cause { stupid | strokes | etc }" Then such correlations should be readily apparent in the before | after records of 26 million test…

Mortality of productive population 15-44 still rising after 2021 in EU.

https://euromomo.eu

Re: Covid infections are causing IQ drops and years of brain aging, studies suggest

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Post by t0bia_s »

baseline-shift wrote: post #124
skrebbel wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. The symptoms started the day after her 3rd jab. Basically she got that “woa i got jabbed yesterday and feel like shit” thing many people got, but then it just never went away. She got covid 1.5 months after that jab so there’s no telling whether the jab or the covid was the key cause to her long-time postcovid. The covid infection itself wasn’t particularly heavy. We very much want to stay out of the “covid vacc…

The earliest vaccines injected at tiny amount of the disease, from smallpox on. So she probably expected to feel like shit, and that's why she felt like shit. However the covid vaccines did not have any covid in them. So there is no way she got a taste of covid shittyness. Most traditional vaccines consist of either killed or weakened forms of a virus or bacterium. These provoke an immune response that allows the bod…

Also cause great potential for autoimmune reaponse. Because spike proteins wont stay only in muscle where was mRNA vaccine injected. Thats why dedinition of vaccines was changed in 2020.
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