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Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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Post by hintymad »

rdtsc wrote: post #87

> Anti-Semitism appears to be rampant throughout Google’s workforce. If someone would have told me 5 years ago that in just a few years, Google employees would be accused of anti-semitism, or any -ism, really, I would have never believed it. They were on the frontlines "punching nazis" and fighting rising fascism here in US, and here they are, being accused of anti-semitism, themselves.

In recent years the left labels anyone who opposes them nazis. Oh, ANTIFAS are like SS but they are anti-facists. So, I’m not sure that anti-nazis argument holds water

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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Post by tsimionescu »

dh2022 wrote: post #62
tsimionescu wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As can be seen here, they did punish these protesters. And the House has just passed a resolution saying that the slogan "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" is antisemitic. Many states, such as Texas, require written commitments from all state employees that they will not engage in the BDS movement or other forms of protest against Israel. How are these not a punishment for deviance from the desired p…

Well, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free is indeed antisemitic... because Israel separates West Bank (the river) from Gaza (the sea). Wanting Palestine to be free from West Bank to Gaza means that Israeli state be broken up - which is antisemitic.... Denying someone employment because of their political views is not punishment...

It is not antisemitic to want the borders of Israel to change (if that is how you interpret the song). Just as much as it is not anti-arab or anti-Muslim to want the Palestinian territories to stay disconnected as they are today.

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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Post by otterley »

faeriechangling wrote: post #83
bingbangboom wrote: post #65

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No, you can't just occupy private property as a protest. Hence why they were arrested.

You certainly can occupy private property as a protest, if you get arrested afterwards is immaterial to the fact that you can indeed do the as a protest. People throw pies at politicians faces as a protest and they're often arrested afterwards for assault, but it doesn't mean they can't do it.

You’re obtusely mistaking the word “can” to mean “physically able” when in this context it clearly means “is permissible.”

Can you murder someone? Even if you are physically capable of pulling a trigger, I think you know damn well that’s not what anyone means.

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

bingbangboom wrote: post #65
sdenton4 wrote: post #20

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Yes... That's what protest looks like.

No, you can't just occupy private property as a protest. Hence why they were arrested.

That's what they said about Rosa Parks.

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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Post by m1n7 »

anon291 wrote: post #40
m1n7 wrote: post #35

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doesn't matter how "in-depth" it is, it's still the daily wire and not trustworthy

The only bipartisanship today seems to be the substitution of curiosity for tribalism

bipartisanship between who?

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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Post by saulpw »

otterley wrote: post #59
saulpw wrote: post #54

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It isn't nice to block the doorway It isn't nice to go to jail There are nicer ways to do it But the nice ways always fail - Malvina Reynolds, "It Isn't Nice" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lWkV2QpgQo

It doesn’t matter. The law is what it is. Breaking the law to get your way isn’t the right way to get things done. Otherwise we’d all be justified in doing it whenever we don’t like something and there would be no point in laws anymore. In a democracy, you can participate in our system and vote to have it changed, though. And that’s the effective way to address these issues.

Breaking the law isn't a moral question, it's a legal one. You break the law, you go to jail, okay. But what is this "it isn't right" business? Some innocent bystanders are inconvenienced, so what? These people are protesting their employer's complicity in mass murder! And a corporation isn't a democracy, so they can't "vote to have it changed". Should they be bringing their concerns to HR, is that the right way to get things done?

The point is that the "right way"--the way that is sanctioned by the system--is deliberately hobbled by many people in positions of power, to be completely ineffective. So you may well have to push the bounds of the system to actually address these issues.

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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Post by tsimionescu »

fleshdaddy wrote: post #82
tsimionescu wrote: post #47

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You would be right if they were fired, but they were arrested by the state. Not so free to protest.

Well there are limits. You can’t for example protest in my living room or by breaking into the Capitol building. Trespassing can be a form of protest but it’s still illegal.

If they had broken into the offices after violently clashing with police, or if they were ransacking the place, I would be 100% in favor of arresting them - just like the Jan 6 protesters who attacked the Capitol.

Instead, as far as I've seen even from the Daily Wire, these people just walked into the offices of their company's boss (at worst breaking a lock?) and were sitting there without disturbing his papers or breaking his computers or anything violent.

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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Post by otterley »

ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #104
bingbangboom wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, you can't just occupy private property as a protest. Hence why they were arrested.

That's what they said about Rosa Parks.

Rosa Parks wasn’t trespassing or interfering with anyone else. And she wasn’t on private property; she was on a public conveyance. She had every right as a paying passenger to be on that bus.

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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Post by drak0n1c »

xyst wrote: post #97
givemeethekeys wrote: post #93

I can see both sides: Yes, Google offices are private property. Yes, Google is an American company - if Google's employees don't agree with an American company serving America and its allies - Israel has been an ally for a long time - then, they should leave for more agreeable pastures. They can even remove Google from their resume once they've found a better resume brand. However, If I were an employee at Google, an…

Are you suggesting whistleblowing? Or inserting exploits into the project?

There are more reasonable, honorable, and effective ways to persuade your company of an idea than ambushing your boss with an office occupation, leaking to the press, or criminal sabotage (possibly treasonous given US and other allies use of the product).

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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Post by m1n7 »

uejfiweun wrote: post #89
m1n7 wrote: post #35

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doesn't matter how "in-depth" it is, it's still the daily wire and not trustworthy

All sources have at least a small element of truth to them... it's better to get as many sides as you can and come up with your own conclusion, rather than completely block off certain opinions.

that's only true as long as you have media that at least tries to inform the public with good journalism.

the dw is a fascist publication that only cares about making money off people with misdirected anger by spreading hate. it has no value.

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