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MKBHDs for Everything

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The only argument against MKBHD could be the YouTube title he chose. But if a "company" with many hundreds of people can't handle a title and goes under, it never deserved to exist.

By the time MKBHD is dunking on your product, your company has already made a significant number of errors along the way. Enough to sink you if you’re still working in the proving grounds.

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Was there ever any doubt the product was… frivolous. It was a last minute Hail Mary from a startup and the end of its rope. God bless them for trying, but there should be no surprise here.

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#13

The only argument against MKBHD could be the YouTube title he chose. But if a "company" with many hundreds of people can't handle a title and goes under, it never deserved to exist.

>The only argument against MKBHD could be the YouTube title he chose.

I clicked through to that Vassallo guy's twitter and that is exactly the argument he is making. He isn't defending the product, which he admitted he has never actually used. He isn't defending the company. He isn't even arguing against a single thing said in the body of the video. He is solely objecting to the title for being "sensationalized" as if it is impossible this product is the worst one MKBHD has ever reviewed. It is fundamentally, to use Vassallo's own words, a "distasteful, almost unethical" argument to make because it is attacking someone's character rather than a product that seemingly everyone agrees is at best half-baked.

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#14

The only argument against MKBHD could be the YouTube title he chose. But if a "company" with many hundreds of people can't handle a title and goes under, it never deserved to exist.

One thing that is missed is that Marques is careful about what he reviews. 99% of the junk that companies release he/his team simply won't waste time on. So the title is probably true.

>> One thing that is missed is that Marques is careful about what he reviews.

He is and he isn't. If he feels something is not worth it, he'll tell you.

Like the crypto phone: "This is a Crypto Phone. Don’t Buy It." with a photo of him face palming: https://youtu.be/hRSMJGs0YMg?si=_sD9MA7JLeDbI0f1

And who can forgot the famous "Escobar Folding Phone"? https://youtu.be/O8FJSjy3bXA?si=nfAe9tZniafBwDmc

And the follow up video when the company responded to his original video: "Escobar Responds! A PSA" https://youtu.be/Ns8ydpZ5-4o?si=3tppQYwiMbSVMfb7

If you filter through his videos, there are plenty of reviews of stuff that he rips that aren't Apple products. Even his review of the Cyber Truck was brutal. And there very clearly are reviews of emerging products they rip like the crypto phone.

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Having actually watched the video which seems to be rare in this debate there was really nothing bad or misleading about the content. He genuinely reviews the product and shows it working without any editing or magic. It's an exploratory product that just doesn't work that well and as others have said if it had redeeming aspects surely the fanboys would be jumping to the product's defence. The people criticising MKBHD seem to be upset he would not blindly support the company rather than providing anything good about the product. New products get dragged all the time, it's part of launching in the modern world but it's up to the business to prove them wrong.

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post #9

The Humane couple were interviewed on “How I Built This” last month. The interview has the “I worked at Apple” vibe because both husband and wife did work at Apple. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-built-this-with-...

They were copying the Apple playbook without actually having the history and reputation to back it up, which made them look ridiculous. On their first announcement video the first thing they tell you is that the device comes in a few colors. This strategy might make sense for a product with which you're familiarized, but this is supposed to be a new product category without any prior history. If you're going to introduce a new product, you should start by saying what it is and what it can do. After watching that video I was convinced that the company was run by midwits destined to fail.

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post #13

The only argument against MKBHD could be the YouTube title he chose. But if a "company" with many hundreds of people can't handle a title and goes under, it never deserved to exist.

>The only argument against MKBHD could be the YouTube title he chose. I clicked through to that Vassallo guy's twitter and that is exactly the argument he is making. He isn't defending the product, which he admitted he has never actually used. He isn't defending the company. He isn't even arguing against a single thing said in the body of the video. He is solely objecting to the title for being "sensationalized" as i…

Clickbait titles are part of the medium of YouTube and any regular user will recognize it as such. And frankly, having watched the review, I can easily believe this is literally the worst product he’s ever reviewed; it’s a product that costs as much as a smartphone that does a tiny subset of what any smartphone already does, extremely poorly.

But let’s talk about the clickbait. The full title of the video is, “The Worst Product I Have Ever Reviewed…For Now”. If it was just “The Worst Product I Have Ever Reviewed”, that would be a perfectly fair summary—maybe a little clickbaity, though it doesn’t seem like MKBHD’s style to go on a rant and completely tear a product apart for the amusement of the audience, and that’s not what he does in the video, either. The “…For Now” vaguely implies that maybe, somehow, in the future, it will improve to the point where it is no longer quite so terrible, and there is some sort of hidden nuance to the otherwise strident tone of the first part of the title, that maybe there is some hope of the product one day, in the future, having some redeeming quality perhaps delivered via OTA update. You don’t know! It’s a mystery! And that mystery—the hope that maybe this piece of junk isn’t totally pointless after all—that’s the clickbait. You want to know what he means by “for now”! The most sensational, clickbaity part of the video title isn’t the negative part, but instead the part that implies the product might be of any value!

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